Hello Guest, Welcome to Apnea Board !
As a guest, you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use.
To post a message, you must create a free account using a valid email address.

or Create an Account


New Posts   Today's Posts

Is my breathing shallow ?
#1
Question 
Is my breathing shallow ?
My wife made comment on my breathing sounding shallow when I'm sleeping. She's a retired ER nurse so I take notice.
Last night I sleep all night and awoke felling good and refreshed . Happy to be felling like I had a good nights sleep after two nights of broken sleep. I asked the wife how I sounded and she said that when she got up that my breathing sounded shallow.
I was using my modified P10 mask small slits cut in the vents.
Nose was a little stuffy but not as bad as the previous nights .
A couple of charts.

[Image: Nyfj8eY.png]

[Image: N6PY0MU.png]
Post Reply Post Reply



Donate to Apnea Board  
#2
RE: Is my breathing shallow ?
yes, it is on the shallow side going by the tidal volume..IF IT IS CORRECT, as the machines aren't that good because of the variable things that affect how the volume is measured. I trust a full face mask more than a nasal one because of possible mouth breathing. your respiration rate is also high

this is where the volume could be as a guide
http://i.imgur.com/ciLBxT8.jpg?1

it would pay to zoom in and show some data to some others that can read the breaths and see if they think it's right.

I wouldn't mess around and get to a doctor today, let him work it out. It may be nothing, or something could be happening.
bring the respiration rate, volume and minute vent to his attention. The minute vent may indicate that the tidal readings are right and 13 is on the high side for minute vent too. 8 is for a healthy person
mask fit http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...ask_Primer
For auto-cpap, from machine data or software. You can set the min pressure 1 or 2cm below 95%. Or clinicians commonly use the maximum or 95% pressure for fixed pressure CPAP, this can also be used for min pressure.
https://aasm.org/resources/practiceparam...rating.pdf
Post Reply Post Reply
#3
RE: Is my breathing shallow ?
Thanks ajack here's a couple of blow ups from last night

[Image: 087ZmD1.png]
[Image: VBlyCh1.png]
Post Reply Post Reply
#4
RE: Is my breathing shallow ?
I'd want my vitals checked, why haven't you been to your GP and have an answer or a referral to go to A&E for more testing?
The guys in the US are still asleep. I'm guessing, but the first chart looks like shallow rapid breaths and I don't think the machine is miscounting. The second chart has 13 BPM and what looks like a rise and fal during the final exhale before the inhale, it could be an increase of that pattern to give the first pattern?
Get a printout out of the 3 charts or show the pics on your phone to doctor. I wouldn't go to bed tonight before getting seen.
mask fit http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...ask_Primer
For auto-cpap, from machine data or software. You can set the min pressure 1 or 2cm below 95%. Or clinicians commonly use the maximum or 95% pressure for fixed pressure CPAP, this can also be used for min pressure.
https://aasm.org/resources/practiceparam...rating.pdf
Post Reply Post Reply



Donate to Apnea Board  
#5
RE: Is my breathing shallow ?
What is ideal for one person isn't necessarily ideal for another - a lot of it depends on your body size. Having said that, for an average size adult male I'd expect to see a tidal volume of 500 ml or more, but yours are between 380 and 450 ml. More importantly, your respiration rate is way too high: with a median of 36 breaths per minute you're panting rather than breathing. By way of example, I'm a small-framed person and my tidal volume is almost exactly 500 ml and respiration rate is 10 - 11 breaths / minute. You're breathing three times as fast.

I agree with ajack that you should get this checked out.
DeepBreathing
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com


Bed

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
Post Reply Post Reply
#6
RE: Is my breathing shallow ?
Thanks for your help ajack & DeepBreathing
I went back in SH and noticed that things like tv and resp rate went funny 14 June which also was
around the time of my machine glitch.
http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...-time-warp .
This also coincides with when I put in an antibacterial filter and change the filter type in the AS10.
I've just changed back to the plain filter and changed the setting in the machine. I'll leave it unplugged until I go to bed.
Doesn't change the fact that my wife has head me panting in the morning but not when she goes to bed after I am asleep.
Doctors visit is on the cards.
Post Reply Post Reply
#7
RE: Is my breathing shallow ?
could be hypovent from a co2 build up, because of a restrictive filter? You have a plan and a possible reason. Given you are still alive after 2 weeks, it may not be critical.
Post the outcome tomorrow morning, to let us know you're still kicking Smile
mask fit http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...ask_Primer
For auto-cpap, from machine data or software. You can set the min pressure 1 or 2cm below 95%. Or clinicians commonly use the maximum or 95% pressure for fixed pressure CPAP, this can also be used for min pressure.
https://aasm.org/resources/practiceparam...rating.pdf
Post Reply Post Reply



Donate to Apnea Board  
#8
RE: Is my breathing shallow ?
Good news I'm still here bad news last night more of the same.
Looking back in SH my respiration rate for the 580 days shows 19.9 med last month 30.9

Edit I have an appointment to see the registrar at my local practice, my gp not available.
[Image: 5Pg6QWW.png]
Post Reply Post Reply
#9
RE: Is my breathing shallow ?
I'm agreeing with your wife, who is hounding you to see a doctor and more than likely A&E or a private with an A&E admissions?

Although your wife flagged this. This is where the cpap guys are going in the future, going by a seminar I was watching. Bringing in the data from cpap and other home monitoring together. Then transmitting the data for computer eval/manual assessment, to flag potential problems before they become critical. They were predicting hospital admissions from copd patients and the early intervention, resolving or minimising admission time.
mask fit http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...ask_Primer
For auto-cpap, from machine data or software. You can set the min pressure 1 or 2cm below 95%. Or clinicians commonly use the maximum or 95% pressure for fixed pressure CPAP, this can also be used for min pressure.
https://aasm.org/resources/practiceparam...rating.pdf
Post Reply Post Reply
#10
RE: Is my breathing shallow ?
Because you are saying shallow I would add the Tidal Volume graph to your charts until you get this cleared.
Fred Bonjour - Project Manager and Lead Tester for OSCAR - Open Source CPAP Analysis Reporter 
OSCAR

Download OSCAR
New to Apnea? Helpful tips to ensure success
Mask Primer
Dealing with a DME
Organize Charts
Attaching Charts

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
Post Reply Post Reply



Donate to Apnea Board  


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Android Apps that measure breathing? camper2 0 39 Yesterday, 10:08 AM
Last Post: camper2
Question "SHALLOW BREATHER" MKinchie 9 414 07-19-2019, 07:51 PM
Last Post: Sleeprider
  Looking to quiet the air sound in the tubing when breathing in vroomvroom 15 419 07-13-2019, 03:08 AM
Last Post: vroomvroom
  [CPAP] Does the infarction affect the breathing in the device? lech 180 3,369 07-06-2019, 09:35 AM
Last Post: lech
  Breathing Video explained Apnearon 2 249 06-30-2019, 09:21 AM
Last Post: Apnearon
  Trying To Interpret Periodic Breathing In Oscar charrob 3 364 06-10-2019, 08:01 PM
Last Post: charrob
  Bite Guard for Mouth Breathing mcsheltie 14 2,936 06-01-2019, 11:46 AM
Last Post: sheepless


New Posts   Today's Posts






About Apnea Board

Apnea Board is an educational web site designed to empower Sleep Apnea patients.