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Is my breathing shallow ?
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(07-09-2017, 05:02 PM)car54 Wrote: I have been following this post and it is very interesting. I also suffer from nasal congestion. I take a daily allergy tablet year round and generic Flonase and Benadryl  before sleeping.  My congestion has always improved when I use cpap. Years ago I had a sinus surgery to correct a deviate septum and had my sinus's scraped. This drastically cut down on nasal infections. If your problems are sinus related have you investigated any surgical options.

car54

I seem to suffer the nasal congestion worst at night.  Like now after being up for a few hours, although is still a bit stuffy, I'm breathing through my nose.
I might try using the humidifier and see what that does. I haven't used it since last winter when I tried it for a few weeks. I don't remember it being much help.
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I forgot to mention that when my sinus's get bad I also use a steam inhaler twice a day.

Car54
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#53
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I just drop in 2 things regarding humidifiers (they are from Fisher & Paykel - but the concept is the same for all manufacturers and devices):
https://www.fphcare.com/getattachment/e4...n-brochure
https://www.fphcare.com/getattachment/69...y-overview

for me, some nights I do better with lower humidity - some other nights I need a higher setting. It pretty much depends on my nose and the weather. (and on some other nights I wish, there would be a (useable) heated hose for my device)
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#54
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Thanks TBMx for the info on humidify.
I bumped up the pressure to 15 last night. It didn't seem to make much difference except raising my leaks. I will go back to 14.

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#55
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If I had this set of circumstances I would try to fix the respirations and tidal and minute volume.  I would try to work my pressures toward the following and shifting would be gradual:

min 12 cm
max 16 cm
EPR 3

This is based on Jul 5 and the many other nights 95% pressure.

I would be looking for minute volume of 12 l/m or less for 95% mv.  Looking for respirations to return to median of 14 per minute and 95% being less than 25.  I would look for median tidal volume of over 450 ml.

I would be taking an allergy pill like Sudafed PE an hour before bed, and lie in the same position as I would be in during sleep for at least 15 minutes prior to masking up.

I would be sleeping in a room with temperature of 68 to 74 deg F and have moderate (not high) humidity.

I would make sure I was not restricting the free movement of my abdominal region, so all my breaths during sleep could be done using the abdomen rather than chest.  I would practice allowing relaxed exhale (not forcing air out by tensing abdominal muscles), just allowing the balloon to deflate on it's own.

QAL

update: I think I would also try breathe-right strip on my nose to see if they might hold my nostrils open enough to help.
Dedicated to QALity sleep.
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#56
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why don't you post the SD card or email the charts to your sleep doctor, If he thinks it's urgent and I think he will. He will move forward your appointment.
mask fit http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...ask_Primer
For auto-cpap, from machine data or software. You can set the min pressure 1 or 2cm below 95%. Or clinicians commonly use the maximum or 95% pressure for fixed pressure CPAP, this can also be used for min pressure.
https://aasm.org/resources/practiceparam...rating.pdf
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Well I tried the settings QAL suggested at 12 – 16 EPR 3 and the results look a lot better to this untrained eye.
It will be interesting to see how I go over a few nights.


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Looking good! How do you feel?
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(07-13-2017, 03:32 PM)Crimson Nape Wrote: Looking good!  How do you feel?

I feel good but then I have never felt bad or unwell. My nose was as blocked as ever when I woke up. Fingers crossed.
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What you now have is normal flow-limited breathing. Add 1-cm and you might actually kill that nonsense.

I still think a BiPAP would be a good addition in this case; however, look where your tidal volume is now compared to early results!
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