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Is there a way to actually heat the air?
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Post: #11
RE: Is there a way to actually heat the air?
We keep our bedroom cold, and I like warm moist air. My wife doesn't even have her humidifier hooked up - go figure. I usually keep my humidity turned up as high as possible with no rain-out. I may well go for the heated hose option now that I've learned about it.

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10-31-2014 05:03 PM
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Post: #12
RE: Is there a way to actually heat the air?
I never had rainout with the system one humidification mode even at its highest. But now the weather got colder here mornings would be a bit of cool nose in that mode.

With the heated hose I can run humidity setting of 3 which is full out hose temp of 1 and have a dry hose in morning. One thing I can tell you is you get a lot more humidity running heated hose mode wide open than you do running system one mode wide open. Think its something like 90 percent humidity in HH mode on 3. Uses alot more water per night.

Ive had a cold so cranked it out though I dont usually run humidity that high.
10-31-2014 07:48 PM
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Post: #13
RE: Is there a way to actually heat the air?
Thanks for steering me in the right direction, as usual.

Believe me I love the cool air, but Ghost has it, it's like that here too, and this air is painfully cold, you are all warm and good under the blankets but this frigid cold air is being blasted in your nose. It's like being in a freezer. Call it the PAP chill, ha!.

Seems like 4-16 heated above ambient might be just what I need, sounds very good indeed. seems like I have to change the whole humidifier and the power supply though.

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10-31-2014 09:38 PM
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Post: #14
RE: Is there a way to actually heat the air?
I bought the ResMed cover for the long hose last winter and it did seem to help. I like my room cold at night for sleeping but prefer the air coming from the machine to be a little warmer.
Hope this suggestion helps - the machine washable cover is a cheap and simple aid that might make a difference for you.
11-02-2014 11:25 AM
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Post: #15
RE: Is there a way to actually heat the air?
After much time, argument, and explanation I finally have been told that the conversion kit for my humidifier is in and can be picked up.... we shall see.

What a comedy of errors. First called Dr. Dr., said ok no problem will get you one. Gave him all the info for who I use and all that. 5 days went by no word. Called Dr., nice lady says "yup got the script and submitted it, even got a fax back saying order was in process, you might want to call them. Called them, oh yah we have the order but don't know what to get you. So I explain it. Ok, got it will get it to you. Week goes by nada. Call them again, oh yah we are trying to get it but we're confused on what you need, we'll get you to a supervisor. After almost 2 hours they now get it and will get it. 5 days later nothing. Call them again 1 hour on hold, finally get someone on the phone, get conveniently disconnected. Get dressed, getting ready to drive over there (as I have advised others to do), scrolling through my phone I see the local therapists number for the local office, figure what the heck I'll call again. I call, and a live human answers!! Says the person I need just went out will be right back, and will call me Confused Think to myself suuuuuurrreeeee they will. But hey this is a rural area and the local office has always been good when you get them rather than getting transferred to corp., so it could happen. 5 minutes go by and she calls!!! She does have an order, but has no idea what I need. GRRRR!!!! So here we go again, I explain. I say there are two ways to do it 1- replace the humidifier 2- get the upgrade kit. Well the insurance company just paid for that humidifier so they won't pay again. I say listen I didn't choose the humidifier and I want the correct one. I go over the whole what I need, and what is in the kit, and all that. Ok she says let's look into the conversion and see what happens, I'll call you back after I check. You promise? Yes! Ok, I'll cross my fingers. Within the hour, she calls back!! Tells me she spoke to Phillips got everything need and it's on the way. Don't tease me I say. No really I promise she says. So we shall see.... I wait with baited breath. Dielaughing

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11-18-2014 06:46 PM
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Post: #16
RE: Is there a way to actually heat the air?
Wow what a mess Galactus. But trust me for the problem your having with the cold itll be worth it. Its running in the teens here now so the bedroom in early am when the fire has died down is downright nippy. Like high 50s. I normally run the tube heat on 1. Which is normally plenty warm for me.

But if I do wake up early with a bit of a cold snoot I just reach over turn the knob up to 2 or 3 and in a min or so Im breathing in the tropics LOL. Ive never ran temp at 5. I cant imagine breathing air that warm but thats just me personally.
11-18-2014 09:17 PM
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Post: #17
RE: Is there a way to actually heat the air?
Hey I'm counting on you guys and that this is my solution, otherwise it is going to be a long winter. Might have to become a silly snow bird if it doesn't work. And I hate hot humid weather. But I have to sleep too, never going back again if I can help it.

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11-18-2014 10:43 PM
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Post: #18
RE: Is there a way to actually heat the air?
(10-31-2014 03:19 PM)PaytonA Wrote:  The other alternative is to quit being such a wuss.....................just

(11-18-2014 10:43 PM)Galactus Wrote:  Hey I'm counting on you guys and that this is my solution, otherwise it is going to be a long winter. Might have to become a silly snow bird if it doesn't work. And I hate hot humid weather. But I have to sleep too, never going back again if I can help it.

Actually, I do sympathize with you. It seems to me that a cold air front (such as that coming from the machine) hitting a bunch of hot air (the user) could trigger significant weather anomalies. Like tornadoes and stuff. So the problem is one of extremes. Eliminate or modify the extremes, and you'll be fine............ Have you considered using an ice-pack on your nose at night? Then, the incoming air will seem much warmer.
11-18-2014 11:41 PM
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Post: #19
RE: Is there a way to actually heat the air?
How 'bout you just get a small heating pad and throw that over the CPAP machine for a test run. If it doesn't catch on fire in the night, you're all set. If it does, you won't need to worry about heating up the air where you're going.

Maybe an electric blanket even... This could be the next George Forman invention of the decade, the CPAP griller or whatever.
11-18-2014 11:52 PM
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Post: #20
RE: Is there a way to actually heat the air?
(11-18-2014 11:41 PM)retired_guy Wrote:  
(10-31-2014 03:19 PM)PaytonA Wrote:  The other alternative is to quit being such a wuss.....................just

(11-18-2014 10:43 PM)Galactus Wrote:  Hey I'm counting on you guys and that this is my solution, otherwise it is going to be a long winter. Might have to become a silly snow bird if it doesn't work. And I hate hot humid weather. But I have to sleep too, never going back again if I can help it.

Actually, I do sympathize with you. It seems to me that a cold air front (such as that coming from the machine) hitting a bunch of hot air (the user) could trigger significant weather anomalies. Like tornadoes and stuff. So the problem is one of extremes. Eliminate or modify the extremes, and you'll be fine............ Have you considered using an ice-pack on your nose at night? Then, the incoming air will seem much warmer.

(11-18-2014 11:52 PM)surferdude2 Wrote:  How 'bout you just get a small heating pad and throw that over the CPAP machine for a test run. If it doesn't catch on fire in the night, you're all set. If it does, you won't need to worry about heating up the air where you're going.

Maybe an electric blanket even... This could be the next George Forman invention of the decade, the CPAP griller or whatever.

Oh yes, well look at what we have here, two comedians, two funny guys. Sure, go ahead make fun of me, it's all good, it's fine, I know the drill.

I'll let you guys figure out who is who Big Grin

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Honestly though, I can't help it, I'm cold, so at least I'm not quitting.

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11-19-2014 12:39 AM
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