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Israeli company develops "internal mask" for patients with sleep apnea
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(11-22-2013, 12:23 PM)PsychoMike Wrote:
(11-22-2013, 09:31 AM)Sleepster Wrote: This looks like it's an oral mask. Add nasal pillows and you've got a nifty hybrid mask that's an alternative to any full face mask. Also, this would be good for folks like me who don't tolerate a nasal mask very well and find that chin straps don't work them. Personally, I dread the notion of having to go to a full face mask, and if this product delivers as advertised it would be a life-saver for me if I ever had to do that.

But it's internal....between the gums/teeth and lips/cheek...It would probably be easier to just "pinch off" the nose than to try to tie it into a second part like a nasal mask.

I could imagine the headgear for a combined unit (this and a nasal mask) being pretty involved and them needing a bite tab on this part to help keep the works in place.

Okay, now you are describing my product almost exactly. Stop it!

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(11-22-2013, 12:41 PM)DocWils Wrote:
(11-22-2013, 12:23 PM)PsychoMike Wrote:
(11-22-2013, 09:31 AM)Sleepster Wrote: This looks like it's an oral mask. Add nasal pillows and you've got a nifty hybrid mask that's an alternative to any full face mask. Also, this would be good for folks like me who don't tolerate a nasal mask very well and find that chin straps don't work them. Personally, I dread the notion of having to go to a full face mask, and if this product delivers as advertised it would be a life-saver for me if I ever had to do that.

But it's internal....between the gums/teeth and lips/cheek...It would probably be easier to just "pinch off" the nose than to try to tie it into a second part like a nasal mask.

I could imagine the headgear for a combined unit (this and a nasal mask) being pretty involved and them needing a bite tab on this part to help keep the works in place.

Okay, now you are describing my product almost exactly. Stop it!

hehe - need a tester>> me me me
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(11-22-2013, 01:20 PM)Peter_C Wrote: hehe - need a tester>> me me me

Hehehe...I'm good as a guinea pig too, ya know Wink
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Very few PAPers are fortunate enough to have a pressure as low as 6 cm. Machines go as high as 20 cm or 25 cm.
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If you follow the instructions on the web link, there would be no apparatus required for the nose. One of the 'Important Operating Instructions' clearly says "Always breathe through the mouth" which precludes this need. Huh
Okay, right. I think I will wait and see what version 2 has to offer.
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Also, the news story says they are developing (only) a One Size Fits All version.

(Also known as One Size Fits Medium.)
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Many a dentist has commented on my small mouth (though my wife doesn't think so)...
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#18
This looks like it would be only a slight improvement, if any, over the Oracle oral mask.

The Oracle is an interesting mask, with some big advantages for certain problems, but it's a bit rough for many people. It dries out the mouth and throat, and the feeling of not breathing through the nose bothers many people.

The big trick with an oral mask is to learn to sleep with it without a nose plug or clip. You need to train yourself to seal off your nose with your soft palate. Once you do this, there is no pressure in your nose, your ears, or on your nasolacrimal duct. It's a godsend for those with ear pressure or nasolacrimal duct leakage problems.

I could keep my nose closed off, but I never got used to the dryness to my throat it caused.
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(11-25-2013, 12:09 AM)archangle Wrote: The big trick with an oral mask is to learn to sleep with it without a nose plug or clip. You need to train yourself to seal off your nose with your soft palate.

This reminds me of having to learn to seal off the opening to your mouth when using a nasal mask.

Amazing, really, that it's possible to train ourselves to do something like that while we're sleeping.

Why can't we train ourselves to keep our throat open when we're asleep?Dont-know
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(11-25-2013, 12:49 PM)Sleepster Wrote: Why can't we train ourselves to keep our throat open when we're asleep?Dont-know

Uh, you can. Play the didgeridoo, it is teaching you to do just that by toning the throat muscles and tissue.

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