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Gross Left water in my humidifer
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During my last trip I left water in my backup bpap humidifier while attached and transporting (6 mos ago). I just took it out because I got the book on how to change pressures and Oh-jeez The water left in the humidifier managed to get into the generator.

I was able to plug it in and make the setting changes, and it runs but...

It smells moldy inside.
What do I do??
07-05-2014 06:02 PM
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RE: Left water in my humidifer
Vinegar and pray?

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07-05-2014 06:16 PM
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RE: Left water in my humidifer
Fill the tank with half hot, hot water and the rest vinegar and let sit for 24hrs and use 91% isopropyl and q-tips to clean the machine as much as possible.

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07-05-2014 06:18 PM
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RE: Left water in my humidifer
(07-05-2014 06:02 PM)macamon Wrote:  Resmed VPAPIII
During my last trip I left water in my backup bpap humidifier while attached and transporting (6 mos ago). I just took it out because I got the book on how to change pressures and Oh-jeez The water left in the humidifier managed to get into the generator.

I was able to plug it in and make the setting changes, and it runs but...

It smells moldy inside.
What do I do??

it smells moldy in the blower, if you remove the humidifier?
(This post was last modified: 07-05-2014 08:22 PM by diamaunt.)
07-05-2014 07:50 PM
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RE: Left water in my humidifer
(07-05-2014 06:18 PM)Peter_C Wrote:  Fill the tank with half hot, hot water and the rest vinegar and let sit for 24hrs and use 91% isopropyl and q-tips to clean the machine as much as possible.

I think he's worried about the water that got into the blower.

Obviously, clean the tank, and replace if necessary.

Also replace the filter.

As for the blower unit, try to pour any water out of it you can. Put it somewhere cool and dry with some airflow. You might consider whether it's safe to use it in terms of electrical safety and mold growth.

If so, wipe off anything you can. Turn off the auto off function and let it run for a while. I would NOT try to put any kind of cleaner into the unit itself. There are delicate sensors inside that might get damaged.

If you're mechanically inclined or desperate enough, you could try to disassemble it and see what can be cleaned and what's growing in it. I think diamaunt posted pictures and instructions on how to disassemble an S9 somewhere.

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07-05-2014 07:52 PM
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RE: Left water in my humidifer
(07-05-2014 07:52 PM)archangle Wrote:  If so, wipe off anything you can. Turn off the auto off function and let it run for a while. I would NOT try to put any kind of cleaner into the unit itself. There are delicate sensors inside that might get damaged.


I dunno what's inside those older models Smile
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07-05-2014 07:56 PM
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RE: Left water in my humidifer
There's more than one pressure sensor?!

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07-05-2014 07:58 PM
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RE: Left water in my humidifer
(07-05-2014 07:50 PM)diamaunt Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 06:02 PM)macamon Wrote:  Resmed VPAPIII
During my last trip I left water in my backup bpap humidifier while attached and transporting (6 mos ago). I just took it out because I got the book on how to change pressures and Oh-jeez The water left in the humidifier managed to get into the generator.

I was able to plug it in and make the setting changes, and it runs but...

It smells moldy inside.
What do I do??

it smells moldy in the blower, if you remove the humidifier?

if so, and you're handy with tools, the s9 units actually surprisingly easy to take apart. if you know the tricks.

i think the Resmed VPAPIII is not an S9 series machine.

I think there is a removable humidifier lid and lid gasket, which can be removed and then replaced or cleaned well.

The air inlet filter has been replaced? (Or at least removed, for now.)

The hose was not attached and does not need to be replaced?

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07-05-2014 08:05 PM
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macamon Offline

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RE: Left water in my humidifer
Thanks for paying attention vsheline, you are correct on the vpapIII not being an S9. This is my old machine which I use for travel and backup.

I don't see a lid that I can simply remove to clean out the blower. The humidifier is a no brainer, but I'm getting ready to consider disassembling the blower unit. Does anyone have pointers about working on this dinosaur?
07-05-2014 08:12 PM
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RE: Left water in my humidifer
(07-05-2014 07:56 PM)diamaunt Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 07:52 PM)archangle Wrote:  If so, wipe off anything you can. Turn off the auto off function and let it run for a while. I would NOT try to put any kind of cleaner into the unit itself. There are delicate sensors inside that might get damaged.

there's only three pressure sensors in there, I'm not sure whether they'd be damaged by liquids.

however, the *motor* is in the air path... and I'm pretty sure it would not appreciate liquids being dumped on it.

You may be right. The PRS1 has a humidity sensor. I don't know if any of the ResMed machines have that.


(07-05-2014 07:58 PM)Sleepster Wrote:  There's more than one pressure sensor?!

Some airflow sensors are made from two pressure sensors with an air restriction between them. It looks like the S9 works this way.

I don't know enough about the particular pressure or humidity sensors to tell how sensitive they are to liquids, chemicals, or gunk getting on to the sensors.

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07-05-2014 08:17 PM
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