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Machine: remstar plus m
Mask Type: Nasal mask
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CPAP Pressure: 13
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Post: #1
Long time user new problem
Greetings Fellow Sleep Challenged People,

I stumbled across this forum while looking for instructions to my machine. I have it in my heaad that if I can lower my pressure setting I may be able to solve a recent problem of open-mouth syndrome that is driving me batty, I have for years (5-6) not had an issue sleeping with my machine and then all of a sudden in the past few nights I can't seem to keep my mouth closed and I think the pressure is a bit high, I must go home to check ( at work) but I had severe issues and a high setting ( I think 17 ) years ago, since then I have (just about ) quit smoking and I am now visiting the porcelain diety all night since I am drinking water like a buffalo all night because of my new found dry mouth. I welcome any input as I need to get some undisturbed sleep. By the way , Thank You, person who made this forum, lots of good info. I have not found a problem just like mine in the search so ....

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12-14-2012 05:54 PM
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Machine: ResMed AirCurve10 VAuto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: HumidAir and SlimLine Hose
CPAP Pressure: MaxI 13.6 | MinE 5.2 | PS 4.4
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: Diagnosed Nov 2011. Conquered aerophagia.

Sex: Male
Location: Houston, Texas

Post: #2
RE: Long time user new problem
You need a chinstrap.

Mouth-leaking is not an indication that your pressure is too high.

If your pressure can be lowered without raising your AHI then by all means that's something to try. I don't know if your machine will measure your AHI, but if it doesn't and your machine is more than 5 years old you may be eligible for a new one.

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12-14-2012 06:12 PM
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Machine: A10 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Activa LT
Humidifier: Integrated /ClimateLineAir
CPAP Pressure: 9/13
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments: CPAP since Nov 2010

Sex: Male
Location: Australia

Post: #3
RE: Long time user new problem
welcome to the forum
maybe the pressure need to be checked to make sure the machine deliver the correct pressure
you can buy a manometer or make your own as shown here:
http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...=manometer

since when you changed mask cushion. are you using humidifier
with nasal mask, you need to keep mouth closed as therapy air escape thru the mouth, the loss of the therapy air causing airway to collapse and apnea. I find chinstrap is good solution for mouth leaks

remstar plus m listed in your profile is discounted basic machine ... doesn't tell you anything just hours used
if not insured, you can get a new or low hours used machine from Supplier #2 with some warranty
if wanted to stay with the same brand, they got used Phillips Respironcis System One Auto 550 with humidifier listed at $399

SleepyHead software support this machine so you can track your therapy
http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-CPAP-Supplier-List
12-14-2012 06:34 PM
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Machine: remstar plus m
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: unsure
Humidifier: unsure
CPAP Pressure: 13
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Sex: Male
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Post: #4
RE: Long time user new problem
Hello,
and thanks for the replies,
my setting is at 13 not 17 ....hey I knew it was an odd number at least , lol
Not insured, but had not experienced this problem until a few nights ago. I made a makeshift chin strap for the night and will try it and give an update.
Once again Thanks!
12-14-2012 06:58 PM
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Machine: Resmed S9 AutoSet for Her
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Fisher & Paykel Simplus
Humidifier: H5i Heated Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: 10 - 7-20 Cm H2O
CPAP Software: Not using software

Other Comments: I started CPAP in 2008. Totally blind since birth.

Sex: Female
Location: Missouri, USA

Post: #5
RE: Long time user new problem
Hi Spog and WELCOME! to the forum.!
What everyone has said so far.
Best of luck to you with your CPAP therapy.

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12-14-2012 07:14 PM
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Machine: Respironics DreamStation Auto-CPAP
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Respironics Amara View
Humidifier: Respironics
CPAP Pressure: 11-14
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

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Location: Florida USA

Post: #6
RE: Long time user new problem
Hey SPOG.. welcome.
Take it out of your head that by lowering your pressure will allow you to sleep with your mouth closed. Lowering the pressure> MAY< allow you to sleep with your mouth closed BUT it will certainly allow for the greater possibility of increased apneas. The whole idea is to produce a high enough pressure to reduce all or most of the apneas that are producing a harmful (possibly dangerous) effect on the body. A pressure of 13 is unlikely to blow your mouth apart. A lot of air has been pumped down the airway in your last 5-6 years. Its time for change.. Get used to a chin-strap.. I see it in your future.

I'd leave the pressure at status-quo for awhile and see if using a chin strap doesn't help your situation of "open mouth". There are many on the market including self-made ones to try. Good Luck.

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(This post was last modified: 12-14-2012 07:29 PM by JudgeMental.)
12-14-2012 07:24 PM
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Post: #7
RE: Long time user new problem
If you make a homemade chin strap, keep in mind this rule: It is not to be so tight you cannot open your mouth while awake. To do other wise would be dangerous.

When we sleep, we relax. And in our relaxing, our jaw relaxes and our mouth opens. This happens more if you are sleeping inclined because gravity helps. Sleeping on your back will also contribute.

You want the chin strap tight enough that, when totally relaxed, your mouth does not open. But not so tight you cannot open it while awake.

How do you know you are opening your mouth at night? Spouse/bed partner say so? If not, dry mouth can be caused by a lot of different things.

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12-14-2012 07:38 PM
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Machine: ResMed AirCurve10 VAuto
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Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: HumidAir and SlimLine Hose
CPAP Pressure: MaxI 13.6 | MinE 5.2 | PS 4.4
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: Diagnosed Nov 2011. Conquered aerophagia.

Sex: Male
Location: Houston, Texas

Post: #8
RE: Long time user new problem
(12-14-2012 07:38 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  If you make a homemade chin strap, keep in mind this rule: It is not to be so tight you cannot open your mouth while awake. To do other wise would be dangerous.

I've found that it should be loose enough that taking a drink of water is still comfortable, but tight enough that it would be a bother to eat while wearing it.

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12-14-2012 09:10 PM
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CPAP Software: SleepyHead

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Location: western NC, USA

Post: #9
RE: Long time user new problem
That makes sense. Good field test measurement!

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12-14-2012 09:16 PM
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Post: #10
RE: Long time user new problem
Hi Everyone !
I really appreciate the help, most honestly.
I did use a homemade chin strap last night and it did cut in half the number of times I was disturbed, much better! I am going to order a "real" chin strap on Monday, and make improvements as suggested on tightness here on the forum. The dry mouth issue was greatly reduced. I am now going to re-up the pressure back to 13 and try with improved strap situation again tonight. I am a believer in my machine, it has made a great and positive difference in my life.
12-15-2012 11:19 AM
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