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Nasal mask styles
I've noticed there are two types of nasal masks, one type that has just side support such as Wisp and AirFit N10, and then nasal masks that have a forehead piece that comes up and has a band that goes around the head at the forehead level such as the upcoming Pico nasal mask. What is the benefit of that forehead piece? Does it keep the mask more stable for a restless sleeper? It seems like the Swift FX Nano has the smallest head footprint of all, but I tried one on yesterday and it seems like it would leak a lot because it's all over the place with movement. Is that the tradeoff? If the forehead ones are more stable then I would rather have that. Are there any downsides to the forehead piece?
02-15-2015 12:27 PM
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RE: Nasal mask styles
The only down side that I have seen to the forehead stabilizer is a fit problem based on the topology of ones nose. There are some masks with a forehead stabilizer that is adjustable or a seal for the bridge of the nose that has makes up for a lot of variation. The way I see it, those of us where the nose angles down toward the facial plane and then just before it reaches the forehead jumps up to that level, will have the most problem with non-adjustable forehead stabilizers.

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02-15-2015 01:05 PM
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Mr. Van Winkle Offline

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RE: Nasal mask styles
(02-15-2015 12:27 PM)fractalice Wrote:  I've noticed there are two types of nasal masks, one type that has just side support such as Wisp and AirFit N10, and then nasal masks that have a forehead piece that comes up and has a band that goes around the head at the forehead level such as the upcoming Pico nasal mask. What is the benefit of that forehead piece? Does it keep the mask more stable for a restless sleeper? It seems like the Swift FX Nano has the smallest head footprint of all, but I tried one on yesterday and it seems like it would leak a lot because it's all over the place with movement. Is that the tradeoff? If the forehead ones are more stable then I would rather have that. Are there any downsides to the forehead piece?
I have both N10 and the Eson (which is the same as the soon to be released Pico), I think it's just plain easier to get the cushion to float on your nose and obtain a good seal with the forehead piece, I find the Eson to be more comfortable than the N10 , Also the Eson is a quieter mask.
It is definitely more stable, I don't really see any downside to the forehead piece , maybe if you were going to watch tv or read it might be more of a disadvantage than the N10 , but for me when I mask up I plan on sleeping. Scale of 1 to 10 the Eson is a 9 and the N10 is a 7. But you could ask the same question to someone else and have a different result.
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02-15-2015 06:48 PM
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RE: Nasal mask styles
Is it just the pillows and FFM that has the forehead stabilizer or are their nasal masks that have it too? It has been over a year since I tried a lot of masks or looked at the latest that was out. I did try a FFM with the forehead piece and I didn't like it but I can't remember why I didn't now.
02-15-2015 07:22 PM
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RE: Nasal mask styles
The downside to any forehead piece for me is that my forehead really, really, really doesn't like having anything touching it for very long. Totally an individual thing, there...
02-15-2015 08:01 PM
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RE: Nasal mask styles
(02-15-2015 08:01 PM)hootietoot Wrote:  The downside to any forehead piece for me is that my forehead really, really, really doesn't like having anything touching it for very long. Totally an individual thing, there...

Well, I didn't like it much either, but I found that with a bit of perseverance I not only didn't mind after awhile, but I got to prefer it that way. Of course, I'm not you and I have no basis to generalize.

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02-15-2015 08:33 PM
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Ghost1958 Offline

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RE: Nasal mask styles
The Eson never touches my forehead. I can stick my little finger between the forehead piece and my forehead. The rollfit cushion adjusts itself and needs some clearance on the forehead piece to be able to do its thing thru the night. Never leaks though.
02-16-2015 02:56 AM
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RE: Nasal mask styles
Hey all, don't want to sidetrack your thread, and I could post a fresh one, but I figure you all might just have a quick answer. Why do folk choose nasal masks over nasal pillows? I figure they, like pillow wearers can sleep with their mouths shut or use chin straps. Is it because of higher pressures or, it's just what they got used to before nasal pillows came out, or cause they hate stuff touching them where nasal pillows do? etc?

Just wondering.
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02-16-2015 04:02 AM
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me50 Offline

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RE: Nasal mask styles
for me I just didn't want anything inside my nose even if it was just on the outside of my nose holes but that doesn't mean that if for some reason I quit having success with my nasal mask that I am using right that I wouldn't consider trying pillows when I changed to the mask I'm using right now I was getting ready to have another sleep study and I decided to stick with something along the same lines as I have been using so it would not create any more issues during the sleep study and since I'm doing OK with the knife on my ask I'm just gonna stay there
02-16-2015 05:49 AM
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RE: Nasal mask styles
(02-15-2015 12:27 PM)fractalice Wrote:  I've noticed there are two types of nasal masks, one type that has just side support such as Wisp and AirFit N10, and then nasal masks that have a forehead piece that comes up and has a band that goes around the head at the forehead level such as the upcoming Pico nasal mask. What is the benefit of that forehead piece? Does it keep the mask more stable for a restless sleeper? It seems like the Swift FX Nano has the smallest head footprint of all, but I tried one on yesterday and it seems like it would leak a lot because it's all over the place with movement. Is that the tradeoff? If the forehead ones are more stable then I would rather have that. Are there any downsides to the forehead piece?

Hi fractallice,
Choosing a mask is such an individual thing. What works for one person may not work for you. I've had two overnight sleep studies, and they used a nasal mask on me both times. I couldn't tolerate anything on my forehead, very sensitive area as almost any kind of pressure there could trigger a migraine. The nasal masks without forehead support just didn't fit me right, always leaking air into my eyes and pressure on upper lip.
You won't really know until you try them.
Unfortunately, most of us try several styles of masks before finding the "one".
It is one of the reasons that people give up on CPAP because they dont have the right mask.
Have you checked the threads here on CPAP mask reviews?
Have a great day!
OpalRose. :grin:

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02-16-2015 08:37 AM
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