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Need Sleep
Hello Everyone
As I mentioned before I have OSA and fibromyalgia .
With fibro sleep is a gift I sleep all total about 4 hrs a nite if I'm lucky
I'm afraid to take OTC. sleep meds because if I stop breathing l might be
Into a deep sleep not be able to wake myself up. Are their other thing's
that I can try .
Thanks in advance
09-24-2015 08:45 AM
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I would advise you to consult with your doctor for a med for your pain. Any nagging and persistent pain is going to make getting restful sleep difficult on most nights and impossible on others. In the meantime, Advil would be a good choice while waiting for the docs appointment. I would advise against any OTC med that is touted as a "Sleep Aid". I doubt that any OTC sleep aid would render you unable to awaken and get a full breath if need be but I also doubt any of them will help you at all. You may notice that all of the sleep aids have a warning about using them if you have breathing issues. They seem to be practicing good risk management so you should do likewise.

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I'm with the Dude on this one.
There are some new meds out for fibromyalgia. I suspect they are expensive; and their being dispensed is something to be worked out with a physician who understands fibromyalgia .

Make sure if you see a doctor for one issue and a different doctor for another issue that they are coordinating care.

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Thanks I have an appointment with my fibro doctor for November. I take motrin, use lots of muscle rub,and aromatherapy.

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09-24-2015 12:11 PM
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Natural Sleep Aids
By Constance Matthiessen
WebMD Feature Reviewed by David Kiefer, MD
Jana Barber, a teacher in San Francisco, has had insomnia off and on for 20 years. She's learned to function on just a few hours a night, but sometimes, she says, lack of sleep catches up with her. "I get really ragged sometimes," she admits. "When you haven't slept, it's tough to keep your sense of humor -- and your patience -- and you need both when you work with kids."

What are the options for people like Barber, who don't want to take prescription sleep medications but crave a good night's sleep? WebMD consulted some sleep experts about "natural" sleep aids to learn more about how -- and how well -- they really work.

Natural Sleep Aids: Dietary Supplements
Valerian is a dietary supplement that has been used since ancient times for insomnia and nervousness. Although many people use valerian as a sleep aid, its effectiveness has not been proven. Jawad Miran, DO, a sleep medicine specialist at Somerset Medical Center's Sleep For Life program in Hillsborough, N.J., cautions that that there is little consistency in the quality or ingredients of valerian preparations on the market today: "There is no one compound which is valerian, rather there are numerous compounds in varying amounts," says Miran. He says most doctors he knows don't recommend valerian to their patients with insomnia. People who take valerian should not combine it with other supplements or medications for sleep.
Chamomile, like valerian, is a traditional herbal remedy that has been used since ancient times to fight insomnia and a wide range of other health complaints. Chamomile is sold in the form of tea, extract, and topical ointment. Chamomile is widely available in health food stores and supermarkets. Chamomile's effectiveness as a sleep aid has not been widely researched in humans, but in animal studies it has been shown to be a safe and mild sleep aid.
Melatonin is a hormone that is produced by the pineal gland in the brain. Melatonin is believed to play a central role in regulating sleep and circadian rhythms. Synthetic melatonin is a popular dietary supplement that is sold as a sleeping aid and antioxidant. According to Miran, there is evidence that melatonin eases circadian rhythm disorders like jet lag and delayed sleep phase disorders, but it hasn't been proven effective in treating insomnia or improving sleep quality in the long term.
While scientific research has not proven the effectiveness of many natural sleep aids, that doesn’t mean they won’t help you sleep, says sleep specialist Lisa Shives, a spokesperson for the American Academy of Sleep Medicine. "The research has not been robust," she says, still, some of her patients find these dietary supplements effective. "People like to feel they are taking something," she points out.

It's important to remember that the FDA regulates dietary supplements under a different set of rules than conventional foods and drugs. Manufacturers aren't required to register or get FDA approval of their product before selling it. "People think, 'it's natural, that means it's safe,'" says Shives, who is medical director at North Shore Sleep Medicine in Evanston, Ill. "But strychnine is also natural. 'Natural' doesn't mean you shouldn't use caution."

In the case of melatonin, for example, Shives doesn't advise parents to give it to children, especially boys, since there is evidence that it can affect testosterone levels.

Be sure to consult your physician before you take any dietary supplement. Some supplements can interact with other medications or have unanticipated side effects.

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(09-24-2015 12:11 PM)shortyd Wrote:  Thanks I have an appointment with my fibro doctor for November. I take motrin, use lots of muscle rub,and aromatherapy.

Linda

The doctor appointment is the good news! Any treatment he recommends must be with consideration of your apnea problem.

Go easy on the Motrin and/or Advil, especially if they don't seem to be helping. There is no point in insulting your liver needlessly. You may in fact be better served with Tylenol for the short term before seeing the doc. Tylenol is usually best for general pain and fever management that isn't associated with inflammation. Normally there isn't much inflammation from fibromyalgia so you may choose Tylonol over Motrin or Advil. Perhaps you've already tried that but I though to mention it, just in case.

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Thanks All for great for great advice! !!!!!
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(09-24-2015 01:46 PM)surferdude2 Wrote:  Go easy on the Motrin and/or Advil, especially if they don't seem to be helping. There is no point in insulting your liver needlessly. You may in fact be better served with Tylenol for the short term before seeing the doc. Tylenol is usually best for general pain and fever management that isn't associated with inflammation. Normally there isn't much inflammation from fibromyalgia so you may choose Tylonol over Motrin or Advil. Perhaps you've already tried that but I though to mention it, just in case.

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Dude:

You might have the wrong end of the stick. Tylenol (Acetaminophen) can cause liver damage when taken above recommended dosage or in combination with other things that assault the liver like alcohol.

Motrin is Ibuprofen; and Aleve is Naproxen. Both a NSAIDs.
They have their own set of adverse effects. The liver is not on the list.

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(09-24-2015 03:05 PM)justMongo Wrote:  Dude:

You might have the wrong end of the stick. Tylenol (Acetaminophen) can cause liver damage when taken above recommended dosage or in combination with other things that assault the liver like alcohol.

Motrin is Ibuprofen; and Aleve is Naproxen. Both a NSAIDs.
They have their own set of adverse effects. The liver is not on the list.

K/R

Mongo

Mongo is correct about the Acetominophen; it can affect the liver.

The NSAID, however, will definitely harm the kidneys when overused, or when the kidneys are already damaged. At this time, kidney damage is irreversible. Don't ask.


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I have a couple of friends with fibromyalgia and at one time I was researching it online not that I am in any way a medical professional. Anyways there was lots of references about going gluten free and it helping with fibromyalgia. Not sure if it will truly help, but in case you hadn't heard of this, just thought I'd mention it. Sorry to hear you have to suffer with it. I know it has all sorts of pain and flare ups. I hope you find something that works for you!
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