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Machine: Respironics system one resmstar pro
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CPAP Pressure: 9
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

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Location: spring, tx

Post: #1
Need some opinions
I am new here. I just started treatment for my mild/moderate sleep apnea. I am just curious what a good AHI reading is while using your cpap. For the last two weeks my AHI has been running anywhere from 3.4 to 4.8. Just want to know if they are good numbers or should I consider adjusting my pressure settings. Currently my pressure setting is 9. I know my machine will do a autopap 30 day trial to figure out what my pressure is usually running and after the 30 days it goes back to normal cpap mode at 95% of the highest pressure over the last 30 days. Just want to see what others would do in this situations and what kind of tongue lashing I would get from my DME.

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(This post was last modified: 04-14-2014 07:50 PM by afman151892.)
04-14-2014 07:46 PM
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Post: #2
RE: Need peoples opinions
Generally accepted that less than 5 is OK. During this period, likely your S9 is running "wide open" -- allowed to adjust over a wide range of pressures.
Best not to touch it during this period.

After 30 days, they will probably try to give you a "dumb brick." An xPAP with set pressure and not detailed data capability.
Before you accept that machine, is your chance to negotiate and lobby for the best machine you can get. Hint, the Escape is not considered "good."

Follow the forum; and learn what machines are in favor; when and why people adjust, et cetera

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04-14-2014 07:55 PM
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afman151892 Offline

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Machine: Respironics system one resmstar pro
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: TrueBlue
Humidifier: system one
CPAP Pressure: 9
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

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Sex: Male
Location: spring, tx

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RE: Need peoples opinions
(04-14-2014 07:55 PM)justMongo Wrote:  Generally accepted that less than 5 is OK. During this period, likely your S9 is running "wide open" -- allowed to adjust over a wide range of pressures.
Best not to touch it during this period.

After 30 days, they will probably try to give you a "dumb brick." An xPAP with set pressure and not detailed data capability.
Before you accept that machine, is your chance to negotiate and lobby for the best machine you can get. Hint, the Escape is not considered "good."

Follow the forum; and learn what machines are in favor; when and why people adjust, et cetera

Thanks for your response I actually got rid of the s9 cpap and now have the PR system one remstar pro. It is set at a constant 9cm/h20 its not a autopap but can do a autopap trial to figure out what pressure is required usually. its a special setting under the clinicians setup.
04-14-2014 08:07 PM
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Machine: Resmed S9 AutoSet for Her
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CPAP Pressure: 10 - 7-20 Cm H2O
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Post: #4
RE: Need some opinions
Hi afman151892,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
The only thing about the machine you have now is that you will have to keep resetting it if you want it to be in the auto-pap mode.
Best of luck to you with your CPAP therapy and hang in there for more suggestions.

trish6hundred
04-14-2014 08:13 PM
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Bama Rambler Offline

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Machine: Respironics System One DS460TS
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Humidifier: DS6T
CPAP Pressure: 15 cmH2O
CPAP Software: SleepyHead EncoreBasic

Other Comments: xPAP, Best thing since sliced bread!

Sex: Male
Location: Southwest Alabama

Post: #5
RE: Need some opinions
I have the same machine as you and here's what I did.
I ran the machine in straight CPAP mode for the first few weeks and got about the same AHI as you.
I then switched to Auto-Trial for 5 days using 1 cm below the current setting as the low setting and 4 cm above the current setting as the high limit. After the 5 days it switched to CPAP-check and uses the 90% pressure that it determined during the Auto-Trail. For me that was 15.1 cmH2O.

My original pressure was 13 cmH2O so as you see it wasn't high enough. That's why it's good to run the Auto-Trial for a while to help figure out if your prescribed pressure is correct. Also by running Auto-Trial for 5 days I can use it again without having to reset the machine. Auto-Trial is defaulted to 7 days but you can adjust it from 3 days up to whatever time is left for Auto-Trial, with the max being 30 days. I read that the machine can be reset up to 5 times. So in theory, you could get a max of 150 days of auto titration out of the machine.
04-15-2014 09:57 AM
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afman151892 Offline

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Location: spring, tx

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RE: Need some opinions
(04-15-2014 09:57 AM)Bama Rambler Wrote:  I have the same machine as you and here's what I did.
I ran the machine in straight CPAP mode for the first few weeks and got about the same AHI as you.
I then switched to Auto-Trial for 5 days using 1 cm below the current setting as the low setting and 4 cm above the current setting as the high limit. After the 5 days it switched to CPAP-check and uses the 90% pressure that it determined during the Auto-Trail. For me that was 15.1 cmH2O.

My original pressure was 13 cmH2O so as you see it wasn't high enough. That's why it's good to run the Auto-Trial for a while to help figure out if your prescribed pressure is correct. Also by running Auto-Trial for 5 days I can use it again without having to reset the machine. Auto-Trial is defaulted to 7 days but you can adjust it from 3 days up to whatever time is left for Auto-Trial, with the max being 30 days. I read that the machine can be reset up to 5 times. So in theory, you could get a max of 150 days of auto titration out of the machine.

did you get any push back from your sleep doc or DME for doing this or did you ask them first
04-15-2014 10:06 AM
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Post: #7
RE: Need some opinions
Do you accept push back from a clerk in a retail store?

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04-15-2014 10:21 AM
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justMongo Offline

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RE: Need some opinions
(04-15-2014 10:06 AM)afman151892 Wrote:  did you get any push back from your sleep doc or DME for doing this or did you ask them first

How are they going to know?

A few folks have gotten flak from their doc. In a recent post, one person reported a doctor dropped them by sending a notice by certified mail.

The DMEs sometimes balk; but, don't have a lot of power to stop you.
Who owns your machine? You? An insurance co? The DME? Are you required to show compliance with therapy like people in safety positions like commercial truck drivers?

The M in DME stands for Mendacious.

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04-15-2014 10:24 AM
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Machine: Respironics System One DS460TS
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CPAP Pressure: 15 cmH2O
CPAP Software: SleepyHead EncoreBasic

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Location: Southwest Alabama

Post: #9
RE: Need some opinions
Never discussed it with either, but I took the Encore report to the Sleep Doc yesterday and it clearly shows where and how I changed the settings and I even pointed out where my AHI and other parameters (snore, RERA, etc.) got better after I changed it and he had no problem with it at all. He said keep up the good work, see you at the next appointment, and if you need anything call me and I'll take care of it.
04-15-2014 10:40 AM
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afman151892 Offline

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Machine: Respironics system one resmstar pro
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: TrueBlue
Humidifier: system one
CPAP Pressure: 9
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

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Sex: Male
Location: spring, tx

Post: #10
RE: Need some opinions
Thank you everyone for your help. So many new things to get used to using a cpap
04-15-2014 04:45 PM
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