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Need tip for tip of Resmed Quattro FF Mask
I really like my Quattro full face mask. I have a pillows mask that frankly we'll never see eye-to-eye on, so off to the closet they go. And I have a nasal mask that's ok, but often I have a stuffy nose and nasal masks don't do all that well with stuffy noses.

But my ffm is a delight! When it works right. It likes to wait until I'm about to drift happily off then express itself it certain, unflatering ways. But that's ok. I have discovered that with the help of a liner, it will happily go about it's business of doing what it's supposed to do.

And I sleep like a babe with this thing. So that's all good.

So what's the problem? Well, this morning when I woke up I was having such a nice experience just laying there with my mask pumping away. It was grand. Until I realized the top of my nose hurt like crazy, right at the bridge. It seems like the mask was rubbing a raw spot or something right there at the very bridge of my nose. That is not acceptable and I informed my mask of that! But it just keep puffing along, not really giving a whit that I was in excruciating pain.. (well, discomfort anyway.)

So does anyone have a tip for what can be done about this? I don't really want to have to go to another mask, I'm a one mask sort of a guy. Or maybe one mask with a couple of others on the side sort of a guy. I like this mask I just don't like it making my nose unhappy.
03-16-2014 07:23 PM
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RE: Need tip for tip of Resmed Quattro FF Mask
retired_guy, I would try a Bandaid or a small bit of material where it is rubbing, I used to make my own liners so used off cuts. I used to use the Mirage Quattro and had this issue since moving to the Quattro Air it seems to have hleped. Do you have the hose coming from above your head? That may take some pressure off the mask where it is rubbing against your nose. Whatever you do, don't let it turn into a sore or it is difficult to heal and you will be back to the pillows from out of the cupboard.
03-16-2014 07:28 PM
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RE: Need tip for tip of Resmed Quattro FF Mask
(03-16-2014 07:28 PM)Tez62 Wrote:  retired_guy, I would try a Bandaid or a small bit of material where it is rubbing, I used to make my own liners so used off cuts. I used to use the Mirage Quattro and had this issue since moving to the Quattro Air it seems to have hleped. Do you have the hose coming from above your head? That may take some pressure off the mask where it is rubbing against your nose. Whatever you do, don't let it turn into a sore or it is difficult to heal and you will be back to the pillows from out of the cupboard.

The Mirage Quattro seems quite popular as a high-end mask with a great seal; but I've heard a few people talk about marks on their bridges with it. I even had that on a Quattro Air for a short time but I tried to loosen up on those higher-level pressure straps. I still got it a little; but, as someone else said, it's gone in an hour or two.

retired_guy, have you tried lightening up on the pressure straps? You probably did and probably had some air rushing through to the eyes. Didn't someone mention medical tape before? I wonder if a person can purchase silicone tape or thin silicone sheets and cut a strip out for the bridge.

A sleep study clinic tech mentioned that (much) earlier full-face masks had much more adjustable angles to achieve a better seal with bigger bridges, over-bites, etc.

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03-16-2014 08:41 PM
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RE: Need tip for tip of Resmed Quattro FF Mask
(03-16-2014 07:23 PM)retired_guy Wrote:  I really like my Quattro full face mask. I have a pillows mask that frankly we'll never see eye-to-eye on, so off to the closet they go. And I have a nasal mask that's ok, but often I have a stuffy nose and nasal masks don't do all that well with stuffy noses.

But my ffm is a delight! When it works right. It likes to wait until I'm about to drift happily off then express itself it certain, unflatering ways. But that's ok. I have discovered that with the help of a liner, it will happily go about it's business of doing what it's supposed to do.

And I sleep like a babe with this thing. So that's all good.

So what's the problem? Well, this morning when I woke up I was having such a nice experience just laying there with my mask pumping away. It was grand. Until I realized the top of my nose hurt like crazy, right at the bridge. It seems like the mask was rubbing a raw spot or something right there at the very bridge of my nose. That is not acceptable and I informed my mask of that! But it just keep puffing along, not really giving a whit that I was in excruciating pain.. (well, discomfort anyway.)

So does anyone have a tip for what can be done about this? I don't really want to have to go to another mask, I'm a one mask sort of a guy. Or maybe one mask with a couple of others on the side sort of a guy. I like this mask I just don't like it making my nose unhappy.

That mask has an adjustment for the nose bridge doesn't it?
Can you not back off on that by turning it ccw a bit.
I use the same mask; and it's great. Of course we all have different faces; and it might be digging in a bit for you.

How old is your mask cushion? Changing them give new ability to seal with less pressure on the face.

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03-16-2014 09:06 PM
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RE: Need tip for tip of Resmed Quattro FF Mask
(03-16-2014 08:41 PM)WakeUpTime Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 07:28 PM)Tez62 Wrote:  retired_guy, I would try a Bandaid or a small bit of material where it is rubbing, I used to make my own liners so used off cuts. I used to use the Mirage Quattro and had this issue since moving to the Quattro Air it seems to have hleped. Do you have the hose coming from above your head? That may take some pressure off the mask where it is rubbing against your nose. Whatever you do, don't let it turn into a sore or it is difficult to heal and you will be back to the pillows from out of the cupboard.

The Mirage Quattro seems quite popular as a high-end mask with a great seal; but I've heard a few people talk about marks on their bridges with it. I even had that on a Quattro Air for a short time but I tried to loosen up on those higher-level pressure straps. I still got it a little; but, as someone else said, it's gone in an hour or two.

retired_guy, have you tried lightening up on the pressure straps? You probably did and probably had some air rushing through to the eyes. Didn't someone mention medical tape before? I wonder if a person can purchase silicone tape or thin silicone sheets and cut a strip out for the bridge.

A sleep study clinic tech mentioned that (much) earlier full-face masks had much more adjustable angles to achieve a better seal with bigger bridges, over-bites, etc.

I tried this mask and I just couldn't make it work.
03-16-2014 09:15 PM
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RE: Need tip for tip of Resmed Quattro FF Mask
Thanks everyone. Going to bed now. I'm going to try Tez's idea with the bandaid. Do I put it on me or the mask?
03-16-2014 11:18 PM
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On you Smile
03-16-2014 11:19 PM
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RE: Need tip for tip of Resmed Quattro FF Mask
Which Quattro FFM do you have? There are two types.
03-16-2014 11:33 PM
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Do you have the Activa as in your profile -- or the Quattro?

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(03-17-2014 07:45 AM)justMongo Wrote:  Do you have the Activa as in your profile -- or the Quattro?

and is it Quattro FX or Mirage Quattro?
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