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RE: Need tip for tip of Resmed Quattro FF Mask
Good morning everyone... First of all my mask is the Resmed Mirage Quattro. I'll change my profile to show it properly soon, but right now I'm still torn, torn I say, between the Activa and the ffm mask.

I will say however that last night was a lovely night! The bandaid helped a lot. Not perfect but a lot. My mask performed wonderfully. Sure, every now and then during the night it would make a strange noise, but hey, don't we all? I slept on my left side, on my back, and even on my right side. I even contemplated trying it on my stomach. But that usually doesn't work out well: The blasted cats use me as a teeter-totter when I do that.

When I awoke this morning my mask was there, gently coaxing me to stay in bed. "Rest little person," it seemed to say, "let me do the work for you today..."

Yes, I like my mask a lot. My nose still hurts some, but we'll keep working on that. One thing I know for sure: When they come to take me away for water-boarding torture this is the mask I want to take with me.
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03-17-2014 10:31 AM
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RE: Need tip for tip of Resmed Quattro FF Mask
(03-17-2014 10:31 AM)retired_guy Wrote:  Good morning everyone... First of all my mask is the Resmed Mirage Quattro. I'll change my profile to show it properly soon, but right now I'm still torn, torn I say, between the Activa and the ffm mask.

I will say however that last night was a lovely night! The bandaid helped a lot. Not perfect but a lot. My mask performed wonderfully. Sure, every now and then during the night it would make a strange noise, but hey, don't we all? I slept on my left side, on my back, and even on my right side. I even contemplated trying it on my stomach. But that usually doesn't work out well: The blasted cats use me as a teeter-totter when I do that.

When I awoke this morning my mask was there, gently coaxing me to stay in bed. "Rest little person," it seemed to say, "let me do the work for you today..."

Yes, I like my mask a lot. My nose still hurts some, but we'll keep working on that. One thing I know for sure: When they come to take me away for water-boarding torture this is the mask I want to take with me.

Have you tried using the stabilizer adjustment to lighten the pressure on the bridge of your nose. Use your highest therapeutic pressure and move the top of the mask away from your nose. Then adjust it back so that it just stops the leakage. That should prevent the problem unlessthere is something in the seal that is irritating your skin.

Best Regards,

PaytonA
03-17-2014 12:13 PM
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Post: #13
RE: Need tip for tip of Resmed Quattro FF Mask
(03-17-2014 12:13 PM)PaytonA Wrote:  Have you tried using the stabilizer adjustment to lighten the pressure on the bridge of your nose. Use your highest therapeutic pressure and move the top of the mask away from your nose. Then adjust it back so that it just stops the leakage. That should prevent the problem unlessthere is something in the seal that is irritating your skin.

The Quattro Mirage has been around a long time and it's user-base is huge. The "stabilizer adjustment" that you mentioned sounds like a good feature. Is that same ability on other masks such as the Quattro FX, or others? (I know it's not on my Quattro Air).

[Asking because I'm a high bridger.]

Sleep Apnea has given me a terrible memory. Please forgive me if I've repeated myself.
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RE: Need tip for tip of Resmed Quattro FF Mask
(03-17-2014 12:13 PM)PaytonA Wrote:  Have you tried using the stabilizer adjustment to lighten the pressure on the bridge of your nose. Use your highest therapeutic pressure and move the top of the mask away from your nose. Then adjust it back so that it just stops the leakage. That should prevent the problem unlessthere is something in the seal that is irritating your skin.

Best Regards,

PaytonA

Yes, thanks Payton.. The screwy knob is dialed back all the way counter clockwise. If I move it up it's not as comfortable. But I'll try adjusting it according to your suggestion.
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(03-17-2014 12:19 PM)WakeUpTime Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 12:13 PM)PaytonA Wrote:  Have you tried using the stabilizer adjustment to lighten the pressure on the bridge of your nose. Use your highest therapeutic pressure and move the top of the mask away from your nose. Then adjust it back so that it just stops the leakage. That should prevent the problem unlessthere is something in the seal that is irritating your skin.

The Quattro Mirage has been around a long time and it's user-base is huge. The "stabilizer adjustment" that you mentioned sounds like a good feature. Is that same ability on other masks such as the Quattro FX, or others? (I know it's not on my Quattro Air).

[Asking because I'm a high bridger.]

Quattro FX doesn't have a head gear like Mirage Quattro does. F&P Simplus does and Amara Gel does too. There could be more that I don't know about.
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RE: Need tip for tip of Resmed Quattro FF Mask
(03-17-2014 10:31 AM)retired_guy Wrote:  Yes, I like my mask a lot. My nose still hurts some, but we'll keep working on that.

Here's a tip I haven't seen in this thread and I do it everytime I get a replacement cushion for my Mirage Quattro.

Remove the cushion and the plastic retainer, take a pair of scissors, separate the top piece of thicker inner-silicone from the thinner outer-silicone that actually rests on your face.

Now, trim a small piece (start with 1/8") of the thick inner mask at the very top of both sides where it normally pushes the thinner mask skirt against the bridge of your nose, you want to follow the curved contour to keep the shape the same as it is now.

DO NOT CUT THE THIN SKIRT THAT ACTUALLY TOUCHES YOUR FACE.

I had the pinched redness for the first year I had this mask, after trimming the tops of the inner silicone flaps I haven't had a single problem for the last 6 years, you'll have to modify every subsequent cushion you buy or they'll give you the red-nose.

If you have an old cushion you should practice trimming it first, it's very easy but you do have to make sure the scissors don't accidentally cut the skirt (the part that touches your face).

If this doesn't make sense to you I can attach a picture if you need one.

The two inner flaps help give the mask some stiffness but, the top of these two inner flaps is too long for some people and that's what causes the redness and irritation at the bridge of the nose.

I have to remove about 3/16" from my mask cushion but since everyone is different you need to determine how much you'll need to remove to fit your nose without pinching it.

Let us know how it works for you but, don't start trimming it if you don't completely understand what or why you're doing it first.

When you're finished your nose will thank you!

Good luck,

Ren
03-17-2014 06:01 PM
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(03-17-2014 12:19 PM)WakeUpTime Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 12:13 PM)PaytonA Wrote:  Have you tried using the stabilizer adjustment to lighten the pressure on the bridge of your nose. Use your highest therapeutic pressure and move the top of the mask away from your nose. Then adjust it back so that it just stops the leakage. That should prevent the problem unlessthere is something in the seal that is irritating your skin.

The Quattro Mirage has been around a long time and it's user-base is huge. The "stabilizer adjustment" that you mentioned sounds like a good feature. Is that same ability on other masks such as the Quattro FX, or others? (I know it's not on my Quattro Air).

[Asking because I'm a high bridger.]

I am not an expert on masks and I have not looked at every one but I have not seen any with this adjustment other than the Mirage Quattro. Obviously the masks with no stabilizer do not have one.

Best Regards,

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(03-17-2014 06:01 PM)TheWerkz Wrote:  Here's a tip I haven't seen in this thread and I do it everytime I get a replacement cushion for my Mirage Quattro.

Remove the cushion and the plastic retainer, take a pair of scissors, separate the top piece of thicker inner-silicone from the thinner outer-silicone that actually rests on your face.

Now, trim a small piece (start with 1/8") of the thick inner mask at the very top of both sides where it normally pushes the thinner mask skirt against the bridge of your nose, you want to follow the curved contour to keep the shape the same as it is now.

DO NOT CUT THE THIN SKIRT THAT ACTUALLY TOUCHES YOUR FACE.

I had the pinched redness for the first year I had this mask, after trimming the tops of the inner silicone flaps I haven't had a single problem for the last 6 years, you'll have to modify every subsequent cushion you buy or they'll give you the red-nose.

If you have an old cushion you should practice trimming it first, it's very easy but you do have to make sure the scissors don't accidentally cut the skirt (the part that touches your face).

If this doesn't make sense to you I can attach a picture if you need one.

The two inner flaps help give the mask some stiffness but, the top of these two inner flaps is too long for some people and that's what causes the redness and irritation at the bridge of the nose.

I have to remove about 3/16" from my mask cushion but since everyone is different you need to determine how much you'll need to remove to fit your nose without pinching it.

Let us know how it works for you but, don't start trimming it if you don't completely understand what or why you're doing it first.

When you're finished your nose will thank you!

Good luck,

Ren

Way good tip Ren, I'll give this a try for sure... I think what I'll do is call my sleep clinic people and have them send me a new cushion. That way I can carve up the one I already have without worrying too much about screwing it up.

Thanks again!
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I guess that I just do not understand. The way that my mind works (or doesn't) there must be one of three things that create the redness on the bridge of the nose. 1. You are allergic to something in the silicone of the cushions. 2. The mask is moving around a lot at the bridge of the nose. 3. the mask is tight enough that the cushions have completely collapsed and your nose is resting on the hard plastic of the mask.

I do not doubt that carving the silicone stiffeners has worked but I am trying to figure out why. I guess if your skin is somewhat sensitive to something in the silicone, reducing the pressure of the seal against the skin might help.

I just purchased a Padacheek mask liner and it has a soft material cushion for the bridge of your nose. I thought this might help in your case if nothing else does.

I am new to the Mirage Quattro (3weeks) but so far I am very happy with it like you except I do not have the one little irritation that you do.

Best Regards,

PaytonA
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(03-17-2014 10:08 PM)PaytonA Wrote:  I guess that I just do not understand. The way that my mind works (or doesn't) there must be one of three things that create the redness on the bridge of the nose.

My nosie does not get red. Or "redness." It gets hurt, as in when I take the mask off it throbs for an hour or so, stays sore to the touch pretty much all day, and in general is just plain pixxed off about the whole thing.

The bandaid helped last night. My sleep guys sent me some funky silicone floppy thing that they think will help. I'll try that tonight. And like I said, I'll try carving the mask like a Thanksgiving turkey if that might help. Whatever it takes, I will make my nose happy and use this mask.

It does seem like getting ready for bed is getting way complicated though. Maybe I should start in around noon.
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