Well, my Velcro arrived today, so tonight I try out the idea for a chin strap made from non-stretchy velcro and I will post to this thread in the morning on how it goes.
For those not familiar, there is a youtube video of a sleep doctor with an idea for chin straps. His idea is that most people have problems with the commercial chin straps because they are made with stretchy velcro, which allows you to open your mouth since the velcro stretches. His idea is to sew a couple pieces of velcro to a ball cap, and then make a loop of velcro that goes under your chin and up to attach to the cap/velcro. The Velcro used of course is the non-stretchy kind.
My idea for my first attempt is a little simpler. It sounds complicated below (reading the instructions) but it really is just wrapping 2 straps around your head and doesn't require any sewing or buying a ball cap.
I purchased 45 feet of 1 1/2 inch wide OneWrap Velcro. This is velcro that is double sided - loops on one side, hooks on the other, so it attaches to itself - inside attaches to outside so that it can be wrapped around things, like cables, and attached to itself where it overlaps. I purchased 45 feet because it was cheaper than 30 feet - I don't know why it is cheaper - but it was only $12.50 vs 30 feet which was $18.00 - Lol.
Okay, so here is my "design" for prototype #1:
2 pieces of 1 1/2 inch velcro One Wrap about 32 inches long each.
- Wrap a 32 inch piece around your head just above the eyebrows and ears forming a head strap.
- Attached it to itself so it is tight but comfortable.
- Be sure to put the soft (loop) side on the inside against your skin and not the sticky/pokey hook side which will scratch you.
- Wrap a 32 inch piece under your chin (soft side against the skin) and up over the top of your head.
- Attach it to itself on top of your head as tightly as you feel is comfortable. Also attach (just press) it to the head loop it passed over.
- (Option 1) Add a piece (about 12 to 14 inches) running from front to back over the top of your head and attaching to the head strap and the chin strap as it passes over them. This would be used if it needed more stability when tossing and turning while asleep.
- (Option 2) A 10 to 12 inch piece over your mouth and attach it on both sides to the chin strap.
- (Option 3) Place a piece of closed cell foam (about 1 1/2 inch x 5 inch x 1/2 inch) over the mouth and under the mouth strap/cover so it is more comfortable and seals the mouth better. (The mouth strap could also be long enough to go all the way around your head if needed for stability)
The two loops should provide stability to prevent it from coming off during flopping around while asleep.
We will see what happens. The first time I put it on I was surprised how comfortable it was - no where near as bad as I expected. So, I will play with the exact routing and tightness of the head strap and chin strap before going to bed tonight and then in the morning we will see how it worked.
I really really really (did I say really?) want to use the P10 Nasal Pillows and as some of you know I have tried everything I can think of to stop my mouth leaks - gluing my lips together, taping my mouth shut, several (many) chin straps, etc, etc, etc... eventually I learn how to defeat them all in my sleep and wake up to a very dry mouth and 90% major leak rates...
The total cost of this highly customizable chin strap is the cost of the velcro, which was about $13.00 delivered from Amazon. Cheaper than many commercial chin straps. Time to make the first version and fit it to my head - less than one minute. Just cut a couple strips and wrap them on my head, very simple.
Wish me luck!