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RE: New Cure for Sleep Apnea?
(04-28-2015 06:35 AM)DocWils Wrote:  No, i know the device you are referring to, that would have no effect here - it is the circular breathing technique that counts, and the throat training that goes with it - Inuit and certain Mongolian tribes tested showed no signs of apnoea despite the excess body fats they carry naturally - the reason is the particular type of atonal singing they do, known as throat singing, which naturally tightens and tones the throat.

The "IMT" device is for inhale not exhale, to start with.

I'm thinking of something like a "silent didgeridoo." Probably just an airflow resistance device of some sort, but it's silent, unlike a didgeridoo. You'd still have to learn to do the circular breathing part.

Do you think that circular breathing into some sort of simple airflow restricting device would give you the didgeridoo benefits, or do you see something specific about the didgeridoo like the vibrations or straining your lips?

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RE: New Cure for Sleep Apnea?
Interesting and worth a try... Off to steal my 9 yr olds recorder and dust the cobwebs out of "Hot Cross Buns", "Oh Canada" and "Ode to Joy" Wink
04-28-2015 02:17 PM
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(04-28-2015 01:47 PM)archangle Wrote:  Do you think that circular breathing into some sort of simple airflow restricting device would give you the didgeridoo benefits, or do you see something specific about the didgeridoo like the vibrations or straining your lips?
To be honest, I don't know why it works better - I play flute and sing operetta (G&S, Lehar, Kalman, Bernstein, etc) and I know that that hasn't helped, despite the sort of breathing flute requires, and a mate of mine is top flautist who is currently on a FFM and around 18cm pressure, so it certainly didn't make a difference for him, so it is more than just blowing technique. What I do know is that studies showed of all wind instruments, the 'doo is the most effective and shows the best results. I guess the continuous breathing style is the key, since you breath differently with the 'doo than any other wind instrument. Over here we use perspex tubes instead of real 'doos for therapy, they are shorter and have a higher pitch, but they work.
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The only wind instrument clinically proven to stop sleep apnea dead is a cpap machine.
04-29-2015 06:44 AM
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RE: New Cure for Sleep Apnea?
I know from experience in my case a cheap doityourself fitted dental appliance that moves my jaw forward helps a great deal with my morning mood and energy.
Problem is I have so much sinus drainage I just couldn't use it.
Seriously I gotta sleep with a leaf blower tied to my face? Yep actually looking forward to it but if effective exercises would cure my presbyopia or my OAS I would be first in line.

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(04-28-2015 09:35 AM)trailrider Wrote:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLMlkjnYe0U

This is not an art form appreciated by the masses. I think the industry is safe.

I think I liked Sheldon's better.

Oh, hell. There just went two hours down the world wide internets tube.

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If we must have throat singing, I prefer Mongolian... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rmo3fKeveo

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Not so sure it works for everyone - I've been playing the flute for almost 30 years, and I have severe sleep apnea Sad

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I picked up a didge last summer and have been merrily playing it ever since. I don't think it has done anything for my apnea but it's a lot of fun anyway, circular breathing and all.
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Wow, good for you! I have one, but I rarely play it. I haven't learned to do the circular breathing.

How did you learn to do circular breathing? Do you play other wind instruments as well?

Have you seen the NIH study on didge playing and sleep apnea? Oboe and English horn are supposed to be helpful, too, but only if you play them for three hours per day.

(04-26-2016 06:21 AM)tmoody Wrote:  I picked up a didge last summer and have been merrily playing it ever since. I don't think it has done anything for my apnea but it's a lot of fun anyway, circular breathing and all.
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