Post Reply 
Open mouth and fullmask issues....
Author Message
tommyngo Offline

Preferred Members

Posts: 34
Joined: Jul 2015

Machine: Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Resmed Mirage FX Nasal Mask
Humidifier: Included with machine
CPAP Pressure: 5 - 20 cm H2O Auto
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location:

Post: #31
RE: Open mouth and fullmask issues....
(08-07-2015 02:43 PM)Shastzi Wrote:  Keep trying out new masks till you find one that doesn't leak so much and you can wear it all night.

Hang in there!

Thanks Shastzi for your kind encouragement ...

I am still struggling with the FF mask & open mouth issues ! I really do not know why I am still woken up due to the air being pumped into my mouth . I feel the air ballooning up my cheeks after a few hours and wake up , even though my machine is an APAP with auto range set at 5 - 20 cm H2O !

In the 2 previous nights, I even tried mouth taping . The AHI decreased 50% but I still woke up due to air pressure in my mouth ( i.e. my mouth filled with air ) . I had to remove the tape to let the air out , retaped, re-put the mask on and went back to sleep !

The air may come from nose breathing ? I really do not know . I just wonder if anyone tapes his mouth and has similar experience ?

Please comment . Thanks.
08-11-2015 01:35 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Shastzi Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 1,174
Joined: Dec 2012

Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: FitLife Total face mask
Humidifier: F&P HC150 with Hybernite heated hose.
CPAP Pressure: 15cm-20cm H2O (auto)
CPAP Software: SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments: CMS50-F wearable Oximeter; Software: SPO2 Assistant

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: Florida, USA.

Post: #32
RE: Open mouth and fullmask issues....
You probably got a mask that *feels comfortable* when things are static.
When you take things to bed...stuff happens. Everything is dynamic!
If you can try out more full face masks (I went through 8) till I found any with the right *contour*
on the sealing surface to stay sealed all night.
(that includes washing the seal & face and wiping it down with alcohol to get it tacky)

I was still breaking out in leaks now and then so now I am testing a new sealing compound.

Avery Permanent Glue Sticks! (no toxic/washable/acid free)
(Elmers and UHU also make them too)
I found out that professional movie/theatre make up artists use these to stick
latex prosthetics on peoples faces with these.

they seem pretty safe since kids can even eat them without ill effects.
(Bleah!)

So far I have been sleeping all night and only small leaks if any.

Yes you can still get your mask off if you need to. It's just a good bit stickier,
Cleans up with a damp cloth or alcohol.

If your mask already has a fairly decent seal but just needs a little help, this may be it.
Try some and see if your skin can tolerate it ok.
Worse that can happen is a bit of a rash if anything.

Yah, I know sounds crazy.
Loco

"With ordinary talent and extraordinary perseverance, all things are attainable." - Thomas Foxwell Buxton

Cool
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2015 02:51 PM by Shastzi.)
08-11-2015 02:50 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
tommyngo Offline

Preferred Members

Posts: 34
Joined: Jul 2015

Machine: Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Resmed Mirage FX Nasal Mask
Humidifier: Included with machine
CPAP Pressure: 5 - 20 cm H2O Auto
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location:

Post: #33
RE: Open mouth and fullmask issues....
[quote='Shastzi' pid='126009' dateline='1439322628']

Thank you for sharing your precious experience with the full mask . In actual fact , the air leakage in my case is below 24 liters per minute ( i.e. less than 11 liters/min.) .

My problem is the air pumped into my mouth , waking me up after a few hours !
08-11-2015 06:19 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Shastzi Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 1,174
Joined: Dec 2012

Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: FitLife Total face mask
Humidifier: F&P HC150 with Hybernite heated hose.
CPAP Pressure: 15cm-20cm H2O (auto)
CPAP Software: SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments: CMS50-F wearable Oximeter; Software: SPO2 Assistant

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: Florida, USA.

Post: #34
RE: Open mouth and fullmask issues....
Hang in there and keep up the good fight!

Wink

"With ordinary talent and extraordinary perseverance, all things are attainable." - Thomas Foxwell Buxton

Cool
08-11-2015 09:33 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
tommyngo Offline

Preferred Members

Posts: 34
Joined: Jul 2015

Machine: Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Resmed Mirage FX Nasal Mask
Humidifier: Included with machine
CPAP Pressure: 5 - 20 cm H2O Auto
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location:

Post: #35
RE: Open mouth and fullmask issues....
Last night, I taped my mouth again . This time , I made two overlapped holes ( 1/4 in. diameter each ) , with a paper punch right at the center of the tape . When I taped my mouth, these holes were placed at the middle of the closed lips . In this way, I could avoid being choked if my nose was blocked for any reason during the night .

The AHI was only 5 . ( compared to 19.3 without mouth-taping the night before ! ) and I woke up only once ( compared to 3 or 4 times without mouth taping ! ) .

So far so good .... I 'll keep trying this mouth taping to see if it really works in the long run .

[Image: 2AubMmW.png]
(This post was last modified: 08-13-2015 09:41 AM by tommyngo.)
08-13-2015 09:15 AM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Ghost1958 Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 957
Joined: Aug 2014

Machine: PRS1 Series Sixty Auto Aflex
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Eson
Humidifier: PRS1 with Heated Hose
CPAP Pressure: 10.5 min 16 max
CPAP Software: SleepyHead EncoreBasic

Other Comments: Moderate to Severe SA Obstructive. Rapid O2 desat off the machine.

Sex: Male
Location: KY

Post: #36
RE: Open mouth and fullmask issues....
If cheek puffing is a problem for you, as much as i love the simplus, try a respironics fitlife totsl face mask.
Pressure is even all over your cheeks and face so there is no cheek puffing or pressure sensation..
No reg ffm will stop cheek puffing for anyone it bothers.
08-13-2015 12:27 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
tommyngo Offline

Preferred Members

Posts: 34
Joined: Jul 2015

Machine: Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Resmed Mirage FX Nasal Mask
Humidifier: Included with machine
CPAP Pressure: 5 - 20 cm H2O Auto
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location:

Post: #37
RE: Open mouth and fullmask issues....
I just bought another mask . It's the ResMed Mirage FX Nasal mask . Last night, I tried it on for the first time and the AHI plummeted to 2.5 from about 20 with the FFM . I woke up only once after 4 hours of sleeping !

With the nasal mask on , the air escaped from my mouth each time my lips opened (i.e. my mouth ballooned up then the air flowed out in a rush !). Is this normal ? Please comment .
08-15-2015 11:25 AM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
PaytonA Offline
Wiki Editor
Monitors

Posts: 3,012
Joined: Dec 2013

Machine: ResMed S9 VPAP Auto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Resmed Mirage Quattro
Humidifier: H5i(distilled-top up)
CPAP Pressure: VAuto MinE14.0 MaxI 20.6 PS4.0
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Orange County,California

Post: #38
RE: Open mouth and fullmask issues....
It looks like you are mouth leaking a lot. What is your leak rate?
08-15-2015 12:44 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
tommyngo Offline

Preferred Members

Posts: 34
Joined: Jul 2015

Machine: Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Resmed Mirage FX Nasal Mask
Humidifier: Included with machine
CPAP Pressure: 5 - 20 cm H2O Auto
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location:

Post: #39
RE: Open mouth and fullmask issues....
(08-15-2015 12:44 PM)PaytonA Wrote:  It looks like you are mouth leaking a lot. What is your leak rate?

I checked the leakage rate ..It's less than 10 liters/min ! But I am sure the air comes from inside my mouth ( i.e. the air is expelled from inside out ! ) . Where does this air come from ? How would you explain this air flow ?

BTW, my AHI was 2.6 last night ! very good trend , indeed , with using the the nasal mask !
(This post was last modified: 08-16-2015 08:11 AM by tommyngo.)
08-16-2015 08:09 AM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Post Reply 


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
  Soft cervical collar: a tip for mouth breathing and chin tucking Visitor 44 3,633 Yesterday 11:43 AM
Last Post: PaytonA
  One good night, now leak issues? sleepyguy99 8 361 12-03-2016 02:17 PM
Last Post: sleepyguy99
  Bite Guard for Mouth Breathing mcsheltie 11 495 11-29-2016 11:46 AM
Last Post: mcsheltie
  [Pressure] Another New Player with Some Leak Issues Platypus 6 232 11-28-2016 06:17 PM
Last Post: Sleeprider
  [CPAP] Mouth slips below mask Carbonate 5 297 11-28-2016 07:35 AM
Last Post: jimscott3
  Not so new member having mask leak issues erikk 9 364 11-26-2016 02:15 PM
Last Post: erikk
Angry [Treatment] Dry Mouth Question Turborob2005 5 317 11-15-2016 10:30 PM
Last Post: Sleeprider

Forum Jump:

Who's Online (Complete List)