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Oscar to an older computer
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RE: Oscar to an older computer
(12-28-2020, 02:57 PM)midwestguy Wrote: myAir doesn't give enough details to see if it's believable. Is "usage hours" just when the
blower is on? If so, it's useless. (I'll look for existing threads on this.)

For MyAir, the usage hours should be how long your session was.  Meaning from the time you started the machine until the time you stopped it.  Mine shows 08:01 for last nights usage hours, which is what shows in OSCAR.  So 8 hours 1 minute.
As far as  I know the blower is always on when the machine is running.
Jeff8356

MacBook Air (2017, Intel) | macOS Monterey (12.7) | OSCAR v1.5.1 | VM = Win10/Win11 |
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RE: Oscar to an older computer
(12-28-2020, 03:34 PM)Jeff8356 Wrote:
(12-28-2020, 02:57 PM)midwestguy Wrote: myAir doesn't give enough details to see if it's believable. Is "usage hours" just when the
blower is on? If so, it's useless. (I'll look for existing threads on this.)

For MyAir, the usage hours should be how long your session was.  Meaning from the time you started the machine until the time you stopped it.  Mine shows 08:01 for last nights usage hours, which is what shows in OSCAR.  So 8 hours 1 minute.
As far as  I know the blower is always on when the machine is running.
Thanks, Jeff.

Here’s an example of what concerns me. It’s now 1:28 AM.
I went to bed at 12:30 AM, but couldn’t fall asleep. My
options setup skips the ramp up and starts at the low sleep
pressure. So there’s an hour of my session with no sleep.
Is myAir smart or stupid about that? I don’t think it
can tell when I’m sleeping.

Harv

P.S. I’ll see if I can find a “cheap” way to run OSCAR.
Thanks to everyone who helps us get a better night's sleep.

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RE: Oscar to an older computer
None of MyAir, OSCAR, or ResMed's own ResScan program can determine when you are sleeping. All they know is what the CPAP machine reports: when the machine started delivering pressure and when it stopped. None of these programs attempt to guess whether you are asleep are not; they only know when the machine is on.
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RE: Oscar to an older computer
I feel your pain. My main Mac is still running 10.11.6. That computer is now a teenager. It does 95% of what I need to do. I run Oscar on my Windoze 10 laptop and I also have it installed on my Mac Book running Big Sur. I haven't had a chance to look at Oscar on the Mac Book and when I needed a report, I ran it on my Windoze machine. You may be able to find a rather inexpensive Win10 laptop especially with the end of the year sales.

On my desktop Mac I have had to replace the hard drive (not surprising) and the DVD player hasn't worked. Other than that, it is running pretty well. I have 6 GB of ram in it (max - although Apple says you can only do 4)
Homer

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RE: Oscar to an older computer
(12-29-2020, 01:09 PM)Homerec130 Wrote: You may be able to find a rather inexpensive Win10 laptop especially with the end of the year sales.

Maybe, you can find a old (not brand new) very inexpensive computer with linux. In Lyon (in France), there is a association which can sell a computer of several years (maybe 3 ou 4) for less than 100€.
Usually, there is Mageia but you can ask to have an other distribution.

Maybe, this can of thing exists where (or near) you live.
From France. English spoken. Equipped since end of 2009. ResMed AirSense 10 Autoset since November 2023.
Linux user since 2009 --> current main distribution : Xubuntu 22.04 (laptop)
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RE: Oscar to an older computer
I just looked on Craigslist and saw all kinds of Windows 10 computers and laptops with decent processors and RAM at $100-$200. If you put a SSD drive on any of those, they would become instantly fast enough to be useful. Just a thought. When someone gets a replacement computer, the old one is often serviceable and available at a very low price.
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RE: Oscar to an older computer
To add to the post above, I just received an ad today for a 500GB Samsung 860 EVO SSD for $53.00USD.
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RE: Oscar to an older computer
(12-29-2020, 01:52 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: I just looked on Craigslist and saw all kinds of Windows 10 computers and laptops with decent processors and RAM at $100-$200. If you put a SSD drive on any of those, they would become instantly fast enough to be useful.  Just a thought.  When someone gets a replacement computer, the old one is often serviceable and available at a very low price.

Yeah, I know. Windows machines are cheap compared to Apple’s.
I’m using a Mac because dealing with Windows sucked. It still does.

All I want is a consistently restful night’s sleep, not playing IT support
to myself.

Can OSCAR help me do that? 

Harv
Thanks to everyone who helps us get a better night's sleep.

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RE: Oscar to an older computer
Hi Midwestguy,
I got real tired of Windows and Microsoft's foolishness toward the end of my IT career.  I have migrated every computer I have to Linux.  It runs on much lower profile machines, and is just as usable and performs as well as any.  I'm using the Linux Mint distribution, running a Cinnamon desktop.  From years of doing Windows stuff, I had (and have) many keyboard shortcuts embedded in my brain ( like Ctrl-C for Copy, Ctrl-V for Paste, etc) and Cinnamon implements those keyboard shortcuts flawlessly.  If you are a Microsoft Office user, the opensource package LibreOffice reads and writes MS document formats with no problems.  All in all, I'm very comfortable with this migration.  You could even find a cheap or 2nd-hand Windows unit, and wipe and replace the OS with a Linux of your choice.  I can report that OSCAR runs very well on Mint 19.x and 20, which are derived from Ubuntu 18.04 and 20.04 respectively.  

As another avenue, I keep a Virtualbox VM loaded with Windows 7 for the few times I need to run something that isn't available in Linux.  The tricky part of running OSCAR in a VM would be making sure the USB devices were passed thru into the VM guest, so importing the SD card would work.

Good luck finding your solution.
A.Becker
PAPing in NE Ohio, with a pack of Cairn terriers
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RE: Oscar to an older computer
(12-29-2020, 10:14 PM)midwestguy Wrote: All I want is a consistently restful night’s sleep, not playing IT support
to myself.

Can OSCAR help me do that? 

being able to post the data from OSCAR can certainly help get your therapy much more fine tuned.  Most Doc just look at your AHI and say "your treated" if it is <5.  But IMHO there is a lot more to it than that which Docs don't choose to look at.  The knowledgable members here are very good at spotting issues in your data and offering advice on what you may want to do.
But keep in mind that apnea/SDB may only be part of your sleep problem.  Other health problems, medications, lifestyle, poor sleep hygiene, weight, alcohol, eating habits, etc., all can play a role also.  So don't be dismayed if you need to make a few changes other than the settings on your xPAP machine.  If you stick with it you will likely be pleased with the results.

I agree with you on the Windows IT stuff.  I abandoned ship around when Vista first came out.  I'm a former Unix guy, and switched to Linux for a while, then Mac for a very long time now.  Not sure I like the path they are going down for the last couple of years, but I am holding out hope.  Of course I have the obligatory VM with Win10 for those couple of odd apps that will only run on Windows Sad

ChromeBook may be another choice.  I have never used one but the prices aren't bad and it may be much less problematic that Windows

Just my 2 cents.....
Jeff8356

MacBook Air (2017, Intel) | macOS Monterey (12.7) | OSCAR v1.5.1 | VM = Win10/Win11 |
How to Links:
Installing OSCAR on a Mac
Organizing your OSCAR charts
Attaching screenshots and files for the forum
OSCAR Help
OSCAR - The Guide

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
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