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Ozone smell & mask yellowing with SoClean2
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Dont-know I am having terrible ozone smell and mask cushion yellowing/discoloring issues with my SoClean2. Too-funny
        
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Ozone is not something your CPAP or mask manufacturer recommends. This is an expensive invention being marketed with a lot of slick ads to solve a problem that doesn't exist, as long as you simply clean equipment as recommended. Why not ask SoClean to help with the replacement of the damaged parts?
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(02-07-2017, 01:04 PM)pozowich Wrote: Dont-know I am having terrible ozone smell and mask cushion yellowing/discoloring issues with my SoClean2. Too-funny
        
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Don't know if this will help but ozone is of course is O3 & is produced when a molecule of atmospheric oxygen is is split in two creating two O1 molecules. These molecules promptly combine with the O2's to form Ozone. Electrical arcing is a common cause of splitting, so I would check or have checked your machine & electrical cables. A good trick is to place a small portable radio close to the equipment, it will soon pick up the noise of radiation from any arcing.
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Hi Geoff

The SoClean unit actually generates ozone to carry out the disinfection (it's not an accidental by-product). They call it "activated oxygen" but buried deep in the FAQs it admits it is actually ozone.  http://www.soclean2.com.au/sleep-talk/do...ed-oxygen/  Of course they are at pains to distinguish "good ozone" from "bad ozone".  Huhsign

It's all spin and hype - there's no way I would trust my equipment to this machine.
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(02-08-2017, 04:33 AM)DeepBreathing Wrote: Hi Geoff

The SoClean unit actually generates ozone to carry out the disinfection (it's not an accidental by-product). They call it "activated oxygen" but buried deep in the FAQs it admits it is actually ozone.  http://www.soclean2.com.au/sleep-talk/do...ed-oxygen/  Of course they are at pains to distinguish "good ozone" from "bad ozone".  Huhsign

It's all spin and hype - there's no way I would trust my equipment to this machine.

I didn't know that. In any case it's hard to imagine how O3 could clean or sterilise anything. Let alone the effects generated Ozone has on the Ozone layer & its contribution to photo chemical smog. The bane of big cities & the respiration of the elderly. I would think hydrogen peroxide H2O2 would work better.
For my cleaning I use a solution of water, Chlorine, and a mild detergent
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Ozone is used effectively for sterilization in some arenas but it does not *clean* anything. The environmental problem with the ozone layer is that it is diminishing not that it is growing. Ozone would not last long enough at the earth's surface to make it to the ozone layer anyway.

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(02-08-2017, 03:51 PM)PaytonA Wrote: Ozone is used effectively for sterilization in some arenas but it does not *clean* anything. The environmental problem with the ozone layer is that it is diminishing not that it is growing. Ozone would not last long enough at the earth's surface to make it to the ozone layer anyway.

Best Regards,

PaytonA

Yes, true, but Ozone combines with hydrocarbon emissions, nitrous oxides (Nox) & others to form the air pollution that hangs over major cities.
Oxygen in  all it forms stimulates the growth of algae, bacteria & fungi to name a few, Chlorine is most effective steriliser in these instances.
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(02-08-2017, 05:04 PM)woozie38 Wrote:
(02-08-2017, 03:51 PM)PaytonA Wrote: Ozone is used effectively for sterilization in some arenas but it does not *clean* anything. The environmental problem with the ozone layer is that it is diminishing not that it is growing. Ozone would not last long enough at the earth's surface to make it to the ozone layer anyway.

Best Regards,

PaytonA

Yes, true, but Ozone combines with hydrocarbon emissions, nitrous oxides (Nox) & others to form the air pollution that hangs over major cities.
Oxygen in  all it forms stimulates the growth of algae, bacteria & fungi to name a few, Chlorine is most effective steriliser in these instances.

More precisely, hydrocarbons and NOx in the presence of sunlight, form ozone O3, and that is your smog.  Ozone from electrical arc in oxygen is a fairly common disinfectant used in water and wastewater, and a small-scale version of that is the SoClean. The concentrations in SoClean are so low, they must be recirculated to accumulate in a closed loop to a high enough concentration to achieve disinfection. 

I'm not a big fan of chlorine or sodium hypochlorite disinfection either.  With good cleaning practices, disinfection shouldn't be necessary, but when I feel it is, I use a food-grade phosphoric acid disinfectant called Star-San, which is odorless and tasteless.  The other popular sanitizer is Control III which is diluted benzyl ammonium chloride.   Of all the above, ozone is by far the most expensive and least effective.
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(02-08-2017, 05:22 PM)Sleeprider Wrote:
(02-08-2017, 05:04 PM)woozie38 Wrote:
(02-08-2017, 03:51 PM)PaytonA Wrote: Ozone is used effectively for sterilization in some arenas but it does not *clean* anything. The environmental problem with the ozone layer is that it is diminishing not that it is growing. Ozone would not last long enough at the earth's surface to make it to the ozone layer anyway.

Best Regards,

PaytonA

Yes, true, but Ozone combines with hydrocarbon emissions, nitrous oxides (Nox) & others to form the air pollution that hangs over major cities.
Oxygen in  all it forms stimulates the growth of algae, bacteria & fungi to name a few, Chlorine is most effective steriliser in these instances.

More precisely, hydrocarbons and NOx in the presence of sunlight, form ozone O3, and that is your smog.  Ozone from electrical arc in oxygen is a fairly common disinfectant used in water and wastewater, and a small-scale version of that is the SoClean. The concentrations in SoClean are so low, they must be recirculated to accumulate in a closed loop to a high enough concentration to achieve disinfection. 

I'm not a big fan of chlorine or sodium hypochlorite disinfection either.  With good cleaning practices, disinfection shouldn't be necessary, but when I feel it is, I use a food-grade phosphoric acid disinfectant called Star-San, which is odorless and tasteless.  The other popular sanitizer is Control III which is diluted benzyl ammonium chloride.   Of all the above, ozone is by far the most expensive and least effective.
Nonetheless, chlorine is the only effective solution to water born bacteria. Bacteria is what produces odor and a quick wash with a weak chlorine solution will kill them all and make the mask smell sweet again. Chlorite, chloride all chlorine.
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Animal shelters may use a 1:10 dilution of chlorine bleach to water for disinfection purposes.
                                                                                                                                                                                  
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