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Rick_V Offline

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P10 cheek lines
Has anyone figured out how to keep the P10 from leaving lines on your cheeks? I like the mask for the most part but, the cheek lines in the morning suck. I am out on a camping trip and using my Breeze mask and really like the fact it leaves no marks. BTW I am a side sleeper and I can always tell which side I slept on by the intensity of the cheek marks.
04-03-2016 09:11 AM
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RE: P10 cheek lines
(04-03-2016 09:11 AM)Rick_V Wrote:  Has anyone figured out how to keep the P10 from leaving lines on your cheeks? I like the mask for the most part but, the cheek lines in the morning suck. I am out on a camping trip and using my Breeze mask and really like the fact it leaves no marks. BTW I am a side sleeper and I can always tell which side I slept on by the intensity of the cheek marks.

I have the same problem. I had a pair of straps I had used with a nasal mask and that helped considerably but they were too big for the P10 and as a result felt too bulky and uncomfortable. They were made of soft fleece. I recently bought a pair of straps for the Swift FX thinking that since they were from Res Med as well and appeared a lot smaller then what I had used they would work. Unfortunately although they fit perfectly and are comfortable they did not get rid of the marking, if anything it got worse. So kind of damned if you do and damned if you don't. Hate the marks but love the mask so I just go with the flow. The marks are gone within a couple of hours anyway.
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04-03-2016 12:11 PM
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Post: #3
RE: P10 cheek lines
Try Pad A Cheek side strap covers. Google it for detailed info.

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04-03-2016 01:30 PM
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RE: P10 cheek lines
Possibly the top strap is pulled back too far from the crown area. If you try to move the top strap forward a bit, then the strap along the cheek area is looser.

Remember the nasal pillow doesn't have to be tight up against nostril. Adjust the two straps after the air pressure is on to make it a little looser, but not loose enough to get leaks.

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04-03-2016 01:30 PM
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RE: P10 cheek lines
I don't get any marks with the P10 but I did with my previous Optilife. I found that washing it in a delicate bag helped a lot. I just tossed it in along with a normal wash of clothes.
04-03-2016 02:11 PM
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RE: P10 cheek lines
(04-03-2016 01:30 PM)OpalRose Wrote:  Possibly the top strap is pulled back too far from the crown area. If you try to move the top strap forward a bit, then the strap along the cheek area is looser.

Remember the nasal pillow doesn't have to be tight up against nostril. Adjust the two straps after the air pressure is on to make it a little looser, but not loose enough to get leaks.
Every time I move the top strap forward my leak rate increases. I worry that that may be a problem. It is hard to get a definitive answer on what an acceptable leak rate is though I average about 20 but there are spikes during the night that have gone as high as 40+ and are more prevalent when I move the strap forward. The leaks don't seem to wake me. Last night I slept with one of those Buckwheat husk pillows that I received from Amazon yesterday. I seemed to sleep better and the marks were minimal. I know my neck feels really good this am too and it is usually stiff.
04-06-2016 09:24 AM
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Post: #7
RE: P10 cheek lines
As long as you are not consistently over the leak redline of 24, (for ResMed machines), you should be ok, and small spikes here and there can be ignored.

As far as the P10 straps, you just have to play with it and go with comfort. You don't want it to feel too tight, but you don't want the nasal pillows to move either, plus we're dealing with one size fits all headgear, and we are all different. Wink

A lot of people seem to like the buckwheat husk pillows...I've never tried one.
I use the My Pillow, it seems to work well for a few days, then gets all bunched up.
Then I toss it in the dryer for a few minutes, and it fluffs up again.

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04-06-2016 09:47 AM
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RE: P10 cheek lines
Do these leak rates look OK? They are from last night with the top strap between the crown of my head and my forehead.    
04-06-2016 11:06 AM
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Post: #9
RE: P10 cheek lines
(04-06-2016 11:06 AM)Rick_V Wrote:  Do these leak rates look OK? They are from last night with the top strap between the crown of my head and my forehead.

Rick: Best to start a new thread when asking about a new topic. That way you attract the right people to answer the question.

The short answer to your question is: No.
Leak rate is too high. You are going above the red line; and you have a period that looks like your mouth is open and leaking.
7.78% of the time you were in large leak. With a big chuck of that around 03:00 AM. Note how Sleepyhead shades the leak graph during periods of high leak.

Best work on that as therapy is not effective during periods of high leak.
It's not just strap tension and placement that is at work. The correct pillow size will inflate and seal the nostrils.

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Post: #10
RE: P10 cheek lines
The strap should not be on your forehead. The P10 mask comes with a manual that shows a picture of mask/strap placement. Also there are videos on utube.

Also as Mongo stated, pillow size is a consideration. Most of us are recommended a size, only to find going one size up works better.

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04-06-2016 11:35 AM
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