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Philips Dreamstation or Airsense 10 CPAP machine
Hi all,
My first post. I am new to CPAP. I get severe sleep apnea on back moderate on side. I was given a System one 50 series machine but have found it to noisy. I tried 6 masks and finally settled on Amara view. Tried nose one not enough oxygen, tried full face and left sore mark on bridge of my nose. The amara view was the most comfortable without too many leaks.
I am choosing between 2 machines, Philips dreamstation and Airsense 10. I want something that is gentle on breaths and comfortable and very quiet as I am light sleeper. Any help would be appreciated.
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Steve
06-25-2016 07:15 AM
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Post: #2
RE: Philips Dreamstation or Airsense 10 CPAP machine
Hi stephennic,
Welcome to Apnea Board!
Both the DreamStation and the AirSense 10 are quiet machines.

It sounds like you are considering a straight pressure Cpap machine. You may want to give some serious thought to obtaining a fully data capable Auto Cpap (Apap). This will allow you to set a range of pressures that adapts to your breathing easier.

With a Cpap, you can use one pressure setting, but with an Apap, you have the choice of a pressure range or you can set it to Cpap mode (two machines in one.)

Here is a link to the newer machines available and which ones to avoid.
http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...ne_Choices

Good luck and ask questions anytime.

OpalRose
06-25-2016 07:49 AM
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stephennic Offline

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Machine: Trialling a Dreamstation auto and fixed
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Philips Amara View
Humidifier: dreamstation
CPAP Pressure: 9 cm
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Location: australia

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RE: Philips Dreamstation or Airsense 10 CPAP machine
Thanks for the welcome, do you have a preference between those two.
Thanks.
Cheers
Steve.
06-25-2016 08:28 AM
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OpalRose Offline

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Machine: PR System One REMstar Auto 560 with A Flex
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Humidifier: REMStar heated humidifier with heated hose
CPAP Pressure: Auto Cpap 10-13 AFLEX 1
CPAP Software: SleepyHead EncoreBasic

Other Comments: Started CPAP Therapy October 23, 2014

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RE: Philips Dreamstation or Airsense 10 CPAP machine
(06-25-2016 08:28 AM)stephennic Wrote:  Thanks for the welcome, do you have a preference between those two.
Thanks.
Cheers
Steve.


Ha, that's funny! You're bound to get a lot of responses on that question.

But seriously, I've only used one machine, and that's the one in my profile. There are folk here who have used both brand machines, so hang in there for responses. Plus, there are several threads on the two machines that you have in mind.

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06-25-2016 08:53 AM
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stephennic Offline

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Machine: Trialling a Dreamstation auto and fixed
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Philips Amara View
Humidifier: dreamstation
CPAP Pressure: 9 cm
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Sex: Male
Location: australia

Post: #5
RE: Philips Dreamstation or Airsense 10 CPAP machine
Is that a Dreamstation, I have no idea what a REmstar auto 560 is. In Australia its probably known by something else, different number etc.
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Steve
06-25-2016 09:08 AM
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DeepBreathing Offline
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Machine: Resmed S9 VPAP Adapt
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: Resmed H5i
CPAP Pressure: EPAP: 9 - 15 PS: 3 - 10
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

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Post: #6
RE: Philips Dreamstation or Airsense 10 CPAP machine
G'day Steve, welcome to Apnea Board.

There's not a lot to choose between these two machines - it's a bit like Holden & Ford. Resmed machines are made here in Oz, which is a point in their favour for me. They also make them in Singapore, and if you decide to import one from the States you may get a Singapore machine. I suggest you very carefully review the prices you are offered by your local supplier and check out the on-line deals available in America. There is a list of suppliers here: http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-CPAP-Supplier-List Take into account the AUD / USD value, shipping and the Border Farce "handling fee". (They are GST exempt, but BF mange to get some amount of money out of you). Also be aware that if you do have any problems, you'll have to send it back to the States for service - even if it's made here in Australia! Never mind, it's all part of Malcolm's bigger plan to look after the top end of town. </rant>

Anyhow, both machines are good. There have been a number of people complain about air leak noise from the humidifier of the Resmed. I haven't heard the same about the Philips. In my experience the noisiest component is usually the mask, rather than the machine itself. My S9 is so quiet SWMBO woke me up a couple of nights ago to tell me to turn mine on - it was on!

You should also be aware that both machines are very largely a re-packaging of their predecessors (S9 in the case of Resmed) and you can get some pretty good deals on the superseded models.

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06-25-2016 09:13 AM
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Machine: Resmed S9 VPAP Adapt
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Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
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CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

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Location: Perth, Western Australia

Post: #7
RE: Philips Dreamstation or Airsense 10 CPAP machine
(06-25-2016 09:08 AM)stephennic Wrote:  Is that a Dreamstation, I have no idea what a REmstar auto 560 is. In Australia its probably known by something else, different number etc.
Cheers
Steve

It's the predecessor to the DreamStation. Basically the same machine in a kludgy looking package. The DreamStation is all sleek and streamlined but it works the same. I just looked at a local dealer website here in Perth - one machine is ~$1100 and the other is twice that.

Having said all that, the Philips Respironics naming convention is a complete mishmash so check very carefully that you are getting the machine you expect.

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06-25-2016 09:19 AM
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stephennic Offline

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Machine: Trialling a Dreamstation auto and fixed
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Philips Amara View
Humidifier: dreamstation
CPAP Pressure: 9 cm
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Sex: Male
Location: australia

Post: #8
RE: Philips Dreamstation or Airsense 10 CPAP machine
We have end of financial year sales at the moment, so shopping for a discount. There was a whine or hum in my mask above 7cm , wondering if its a seal or bearing in the Resmed 50 series one machine. Tried everything, put blanket under machine, new filter etc. Maybe its the mask but I think a vibration is travelling up the hose going into the mask. I tried earplugs it made it worse, the hum or whine echoes in my head. Tried it for 4 nights , took mask off and said no I think I need a new CPAP machine. I even took it to the shop they couldn't hear what I was hearing.
This CPAP is all new to me so hopefully a new machine will be the answer.
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Steve
06-25-2016 09:51 AM
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Post: #9
RE: Philips Dreamstation or Airsense 10 CPAP machine
The 50 series one machine is a Philips Respironics machine not a Resmed.The older designations for the Resmed are like S9 autoset or S9 VPAP Auto etc. The link that Opalrose gave will give you a good idea of the naming conventions (or should I say variable naming conventions).

Best Regards,

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06-25-2016 11:05 AM
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Post: #10
RE: Philips Dreamstation or Airsense 10 CPAP machine
Echoing others comments it basically comes down to preference and perhaps pricing. I use the Resmed A10 (some call it the S10) and it is extremely quiet as long as the humidifier is properly seated in the chamber which is not hard to do. It also is light so travels in its case easily. Given that I found it unnecessary to purchase a separate travel unit so i can have the same sleep while away from home. There are very small travel units available but they have reported issues (see other threads re the Z1) with noise and turning off randomly to name a few so the light A10, at least for me, killed two birds with one stone.

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06-25-2016 11:18 AM
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