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Question Philips Respironics Nuance Mask Headgear Alternative
Hi all. After lurking a bit, I decided to join.

A year ago, I had to change my CPAP machine to the Philips Respironics. I go through my Nuance mask headgear about every month-and-a-half to two months. These things are just not durable since I sweat a lot and my head is oily. Insurance will only replace them every six months.

Is there an alternative or has anyone made a mask out of actual material that isn't rubber and going to degrade/stick to my skin? It would be worth it to pay for something that is actually machine or hand washable that would last a year or so.
02-05-2015 09:11 AM
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RE: Philips Respironics Nuance Mask Headgear Alternative
Hi supersleepyhead,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
Hang in there for suggestions and much success to you as you continue your CPAP therapy.

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02-05-2015 01:50 PM
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RE: Philips Respironics Nuance Mask Headgear Alternative
The velcro is wearing out with mine after just two months, and I also would be curious on alternatives if anyone has thoughts on this. I'm thinking it might be because I remove the headgear from the pro frame every day to wash the short tube and frame -- then re-adjust every night.
03-13-2015 01:47 PM
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RE: Philips Respironics Nuance Mask Headgear Alternative
I've been babying the velcro this time -- and hoping that helps. I am trying to return the velcro to the same position after I remove the headgear for cleaning the frame and short tube.

I'm wondering that as a new user I was making too many adjustments -- and am trying not to readjust it so much. I'm also making some adjustments by altering the position of the back strap of the headgear which seems to make a difference.

Hoping to find my issues were more "user error"

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03-29-2015 10:32 AM
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RE: Philips Respironics Nuance Mask Headgear Alternative
I use the Nuance Pro and have found it to work the best out of all I tried.

The problem I have is the gel pads fall out after a while. Rather than paying $180.00 for a new mask ,I just by the replacement parts I need at a much lower cost than a new mask.

I needed a new frame last week,gel pad fell out, and was able to purchase a new one @ $60.00 rather than the $180.00

I thought that things here in Ontario, Canada would get better and cheaper when you became a verified Senior. Guess not!

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03-29-2015 10:48 AM
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RE: Philips Respironics Nuance Mask Headgear Alternative
$180 for the Nuance Pro gel nasal pillow??? Wow, I had no idea they were that expensive.
05-05-2015 01:03 PM
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RE: Philips Respironics Nuance Mask Headgear Alternative
Move to the Resmed masks, particularly the P10 or F10, they will do you better, methinks. And are perfectly compatible with the PSR machines.
05-05-2015 01:20 PM
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RE: Philips Respironics Nuance Mask Headgear Alternative
I have the same headgear from 6 mos ago and still going. Non pro. I don't wash mine very often even though I have oily hair. I just found most headgear lasts longer if I don't. When I do wash it, I squeeze it out in a towel many times then hang to dry. The weakest part is that velcro, though. They made it very thin so it has minimal contact to the cheek but it has no grip. When they improved the back strap finally (they finally made it not so gross and sticky), they also fixed that velcro a little but not much.

If you are paying $180 for that mask, you are being cheated horribly. You can almost get two for that.

For example, Supplier #26 has the entire Pro version for $109. You can get just the headgear for $36 (but pro does not include gel insert bit).

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05-07-2015 01:07 PM
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RE: Philips Respironics Nuance Mask Headgear Alternative
I've tried to like the Nuance Pro, but after two trial periods, I found the headgear material just didn't hold up much longer than three months. In addition, the pillows did not stay put as well as with the AirFit P10 and F&P Opus. I'm amazed at how well the P10 headgear holds up. I'm on the equivalent of 6+ months on it, and the headgear has still retained it's original size and condition. The F&P Opus has also help up well so far, although I've only got about five weeks on it. (I've been alternating between the two since March 1). Both of these are now my "go to": masks.
05-07-2015 06:46 PM
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RE: Philips Respironics Nuance Mask Headgear Alternative
The Pro with the gel pads is, in my opinion, a silly idea. And not implemented well. It was too hot against my skin and the pads pop out too easily from the frame. However, I do like using the cloth version.

Each mask has its strengths and weaknesses. They have yet to invent a perfect mask that has a perfect headgear. The P10 with the diffused vent is a good idea but they failed on the headgear and the pillow sizing. Close but not quite. But they will never be able to come up with a "one mask for everyone" because it just is not possible. Not only is each face different, but so is our tolerance level. Some people are perfectly content modifying their headgear because they enjoy the mask. Or wearing a chin strap because they don't want to wear a FFM. Or whatever.

If anyone feels strongly about a positive or negative experience with a mask or whatever in regards to their CPAP life, feel free to review it!

how to do a mask review http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...orum--5546
but before you do http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-BEFORE-YOU-START

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05-08-2015 07:58 PM
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