Hello Guest, Welcome to Apnea Board !
As a guest, you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use.
To post a message, you must create a free account using a valid email address.

or Create an Account


New Posts   Today's Posts

[Pressure] Do I need a Bi-Pap or higher pressure APAP?
#81
RE: Do I need a Bi-Pap or higher pressure APAP?
As you know, this pattern of clustered obstructive apnea is the signature of positional apnea that should respond well to using a soft cervical collar.  I assume you have read the soft cervical collar wiki, and the positional apnea article linked in that wiki. The SCC should make a big difference for you.

[Image: attachment.php?aid=27068]
Sleeprider
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com

____________________________________________
Download OSCAR Software
Soft Cervical Collar
Optimizing Therapy
Organize your OSCAR Charts
Attaching Files
Mask Primer
How To Deal With Equipment Supplier


INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
Post Reply Post Reply






Donate to Apnea Board  
#82
RE: Do I need a Bi-Pap or higher pressure APAP?
I have read up on that, and I should have had my collar last week if Amazon didn’t loose my package in the mail lol. Luckily I’ll eventually get a refund from them, and tracking says my replacement will be arriving today! I tried sleeping with a backwards neck pillow but that seemed to do absolutely nothing lol.
Post Reply Post Reply
#83
RE: Do I need a Bi-Pap or higher pressure APAP?
(10-01-2020, 08:17 AM)Sleeprider Wrote: As you know, this pattern of clustered obstructive apnea is the signature of positional apnea that should respond well to using a soft cervical collar.  I assume you have read the soft cervical collar wiki, and the positional apnea article linked in that wiki. The SCC should make a big difference for you.

[Image: attachment.php?aid=27068]

What’s the deal with the central apnea that’s towards the end of that apnea cycle, could that just have been the machine misreported a OSA as a CA? Luckily it seems if im reading right my flow limitations are much lower I am just disappointed this machine does not record rera events.
Post Reply Post Reply
#84
RE: Do I need a Bi-Pap or higher pressure APAP?
The "deal" on the CA is that you managed to move enough air to still record an apnea, but the your airway is still physically obstructed. As a result, the machine detects an open airway with apnea present and scores it incorrectly as central. The machines are not perfect, and that is not a central.

Here is the link on Positional Apnea. It's in the Optimizing Therapy wiki which is overall a good read http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...onal_Apnea
This is the soft cervical collar wiki http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...cal_Collar
Sleeprider
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com

____________________________________________
Download OSCAR Software
Soft Cervical Collar
Optimizing Therapy
Organize your OSCAR Charts
Attaching Files
Mask Primer
How To Deal With Equipment Supplier


INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
Post Reply Post Reply






Donate to Apnea Board  
#85
RE: Do I need a Bi-Pap or higher pressure APAP?
That all seems to make sense to me. If I were to adjust the maximum pressure to 25 do you think the machine will use all of the extra headroom or still stay around 18-19 as the average pressure? If I was to rase the max to 25 I think I would also raise the min to 12 because the pressure doesn't really bother me, except for pressure build-up and "clogging" of the ears.
Post Reply Post Reply
#86
RE: Do I need a Bi-Pap or higher pressure APAP?
Feel free to take it to 25 and we can come back with pressure support and the collar and see if we can keep it lower. If you're comfortable, so am I.
Sleeprider
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com

____________________________________________
Download OSCAR Software
Soft Cervical Collar
Optimizing Therapy
Organize your OSCAR Charts
Attaching Files
Mask Primer
How To Deal With Equipment Supplier


INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
Post Reply Post Reply
#87
RE: Do I need a Bi-Pap or higher pressure APAP?
I have the collar so today I’ll keep the settings the same unless you have a recommendation on the PS and I’ll see from there. I think that is the more scientific option, however I may end up raising it anyway because we would still see if the pressure goes down anyway. If I were to increase to 25 what do you think the ps should be at?
Post Reply Post Reply






Donate to Apnea Board  
#88
RE: Do I need a Bi-Pap or higher pressure APAP?
With PS you add PS+Epap = IPAP So raising the top number does not change Pressure support - you can change it if you want but if you change more than one setting at a time, you don't know the which caused the change in your events.

For instance mine is PS 5.4 over 8.0 so my normal pressure would be 13.4 and my max pressure is what you set 25 (mine is 18)
Apnea (80-100%) 10 seconds, Hypopnea (50-80%) 10 seconds, Flow Limits (0-50%) not timed 
Cervical Collar     Dealing w DME     Chart Organizing
Post Reply Post Reply
#89
RE: Do I need a Bi-Pap or higher pressure APAP?
I though ps was just the largest difference between ipap and epap
So if my min is 10 and max is 20 my starting will be 10+4 so 14 as my min with 10
Post Reply Post Reply
#90
RE: Do I need a Bi-Pap or higher pressure APAP?
PS is the current difference, PS = IPAP - EPAP
Fred Bonjour - Project Manager and Lead Tester for OSCAR - Open Source CPAP Analysis Reporter 
OSCAR

Download OSCAR
New to Apnea? Helpful tips to ensure success
Soft Cervical Collar
Mask Primer
Dealing with a DME
Organize Charts
Attaching Charts

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
Post Reply Post Reply






Donate to Apnea Board  


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Return to APAP with P30i mask many CA Roy289 14 367 10-16-2020, 08:05 AM
Last Post: Roy289
  AHI usually higher in first hours of sleep, then decrease later JUllian 5 158 10-10-2020, 03:05 PM
Last Post: Sleeprider
  CPAP to APAP Transition bluetec 14 321 10-03-2020, 08:40 AM
Last Post: bluetec
  Z-drug sedatives to promote sleep during APAP fredkahan 7 216 09-30-2020, 03:43 PM
Last Post: fredkahan
  [Health] EPILEPSY AND HIGHER SLEEP APNEA RISK srlevine1 0 82 09-28-2020, 08:44 PM
Last Post: srlevine1
  I'm losing it! Please help - switching from APAP to BPAP. Need settings. IUsedToSnore 5 157 09-25-2020, 04:42 PM
Last Post: bonjour
  New Member - help please with my APAP Settings lysander08 13 951 09-15-2020, 06:40 PM
Last Post: lysander08


New Posts   Today's Posts






About Apnea Board

Apnea Board is an educational web site designed to empower Sleep Apnea patients.