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SleepyJohn Offline

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Programming used machine
I don't have health insurance. If I get a used cpap, is there a way to use it without a sleep apnea doctor to set it up?
07-13-2013 12:53 PM
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Paptillian Offline

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RE: Programming used machine
Technically, yes. There are instructions for setting up various machines, and you might benefit from an auto-titrating machine if you can get one without a prescription.

However, without a sleep study, you don't know the true nature of your sleep and what other things may be happening. I can't advocate skipping the doctor. Maybe they can work with you on a payment plan?
07-13-2013 01:02 PM
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RE: Programming used machine
(07-13-2013 12:53 PM)SleepyJohn Wrote:  I don't have health insurance. If I get a used cpap, is there a way to use it without a sleep apnea doctor to set it up?

I assume you already have a diagnosis of OSA since your profile shows a pressure of 8. If I'm wrong, do what you have to to get an official diagnosis of OSA since there are many other medical conditions that cause fatigue.

I have been down that road, losing my insurance after I was diagnosed but before I could get a machine. Read my prior posts to see what I've gone through. Also go to http://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap-pr...re-on-cpap for info on setting up CPAP machines, and http://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap-pr...tup-manual to request a clinician's manual.

You will want to learn what's on the market before you buy a machine. The best machines are data-capable auto-CPAP's such as the ResMed S9 Autoset and the Phillips Respironics System One model 560. These are among the more expensive machines, but you can get good deals on gently used machines from supplier no. 2 on the supplier list. You can also find good deals on Craigslist if you know what to look for. (There are also some incredibly bad deals on Craigslist, so watch out).

You will also want to download the data so you know how well it's working for you. (This is why it's absolutely important to get a data-capable machine, especially if you're going it alone). The data won't make sense at first, but you can learn to understand it by downloading it every day for the first month.

Been there, done that! Good luck, and don't be afraid to ask questions on the board.
(This post was last modified: 07-13-2013 01:16 PM by big_dave.)
07-13-2013 01:13 PM
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trish6hundred Offline

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RE: Programming used machine
Hi SleepyJohn,
What big_dave said.
Good luck to you.

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07-13-2013 01:47 PM
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PaulaO2 Offline
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RE: Programming used machine
This is where a sleep study can be so necessary.

As the others have said, if you already have the diagnosis, you can get a used one from various sources and set it up yourself. But if you are not diagnosed, then don't get one until you have the sleep study. There are some home sleep studies you can try and they are significantly cheaper.

You will need a doctor's script to get a machine and mask. Supplier #2 sells "gently used" and "open box" machines at good prices. There's also Craigslist and your local swap/sell paper. Just be aware of what you are getting. Before you buy, especially if getting from a non-supplier, download the manual for it and figure out how to check the run-hours. Most of them you can delete the previous users data but not the machine's run hours, which is the total hours it was used. You'll want to check that first. Archangel has a great write up on what machines to look for. http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...ne_Choices

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07-13-2013 02:26 PM
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RE: Programming used machine
(07-13-2013 12:53 PM)SleepyJohn Wrote:  I don't have health insurance. If I get a used cpap, is there a way to use it without a sleep apnea doctor to set it up?

You need a newer machine than your currant machine "Remstar from 2006". Both ResMed S9 AutoSet and Phillips Respironcis Auto 550/560 adjust pressure automatically as required and distinguish between obstructive and central apnea

As for sleep doctor, I saw mine last week and he only looked at AHI/leak/usage and said all looks good, keep doing what you doing. Most people with plain OSA learn to manage their own treatment, actually based on the poll "How often you follow-up with sleep doctor/professional?" most respondents said they see their once a year or never http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...t=followup
07-13-2013 03:19 PM
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RE: Programming used machine
(07-13-2013 01:13 PM)big_dave Wrote:  You can also find good deals on Craigslist if you know what to look for. (There are also some incredibly bad deals on Craigslist, so watch out).

Like the "almost new in box" S9 AutoSet that had "only been used a couple of nights" - "four at the most". That when I walked the guy through the menu to check the time used it showed 1,200+ hours?!? Them was some loooooooooooooooooooooong nights. Not that that number of hours would be a deal killer, I just don't appreciate folks lying to me.

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07-15-2013 12:41 PM
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