Hello Guest, Welcome to Apnea Board !
As a guest, you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use.
To post a message, you must create a free account using a valid email address.

or Create an Account


New Posts   Today's Posts

Quackdoctor (Therapy Thread)
#1
Quackdoctor (Therapy Thread)
Hello everyone! I'm new to the forum and in hopes of getting some help with my sleep apnea. I have both obstructive and central apnea. When I went in for my annual check up in March I had a Nurse Practitioner review my results. He asked how I was doing with my sleep therapy to which I replied I was doing great. He looked at my printout and and said no, your not doing good at all, your AHI is too high. He jacked up the pressure on my machine and sent me on my way. I tried for five weeks to live with these settings. The worst five weeks of my life. Mask leaks, noise from machine and closed nasal passages had me awake every hour. I felt like a zombie all day. I finally made changes to my pressure settings and finally got the sleep I had been missing. I returned to the Doctor after two months and met with a different Nurse Practitioner. After explaining the situation to her, she agreed with me that the well being of the patient was more important than a slightly elevated AHI. She had the technician return my machine settings to the original settings.


After joining the Sleep Apnea Board and installing Oscar I've found some results that cause me to believe that my machine is malfunctioning from time to time. There are some nights where the machine only records data for 40 min. and shows an extremely high AHI. It records apnea's and hypopnea's during times that I'm awake and breathing normal without obstructive airway. My humidifier works when it wants to which isn't often. I use my machine every night and should have 100 percent compliance, yet the printouts show varying percents of compliance.


I would like to tweak my pressure levels to improve the AHI, but until I resolve the intermittent results from the machine I don't know where to start. I have an appointment with the Head Doctor at the clinic later this month. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
   
Post Reply Post Reply






Donate to Apnea Board  
#2
RE: New member/Machine Problem
Show the a screen shot of the Daily page on a night where you believe it's not working correctly and a Daily page where it's working well.
Post Reply Post Reply
#3
RE: New member/Machine Problem
   

   

Daily screen shots.
Post Reply Post Reply
#4
RE: New member/Machine Problem
As odd as it sounds, recording events while one is awake is perfectly normal. The device doesn't know whether you're awake or asleep, it just records events. Awake breathing can often be erratic and volatile, this may create false positives. A second source of flagged events can occur during transition from wake to sleep, sleep onset apneas. Perfectly normal. 

Now, the huge AHI calculation and short recorded sessions is very strange.

You're on a very old version of OSCAR, the first thing I suggest is upgrading to 1.4.

I *suspect* the nights your AHI is wildly high it's a data problem. On the nights that your AHI is wildy, how many events did you have (represented in the events tab). 

Does you OSCAR stats reflect what the machine reports on screen, or threw dreammapper.

I suspect OSCAR is doing the math based on the short session time but using the number of events during a much longer session.

Upgrade OSCAR, possibly re-import the data into a new profile.

BTW, turn off the calendar and event breakdown on the left so all the machine settings and summary can be seen.
Post Reply Post Reply






Donate to Apnea Board  
#5
RE: New member/Machine Problem
Your first graph shows only 20 min with a huge amount of events that do not show up on Your event chart.

Try posting again the full night.
Apnea (80-100%) 10 seconds, Hypopnea (50-80%) 10 seconds, Flow Limits (0-50%) not timed  Cervical Collar - Dealing w DME - Chart Organizing
Post Reply Post Reply
#6
RE: New member/Machine Problem
Ok, the new version of Oscar got rid of all the wild readings. It now looks like a normal machine. Thanks for your help. I'm going to start a new thread with current screen shots since this one didn't garner much interest. I still want to try and lower my numbers.
Post Reply Post Reply
#7
RE: New member/Machine Problem
The mods want you to PLEASE keep all your stuff in one thread. That way they have the full picture of your history. Do NOT start a new thread. Yes they can merge them, but that's just extra work for the mods. Better to have them spending time helping people.
Post Reply Post Reply






Donate to Apnea Board  
#8
RE: New member/Machine Problem
Besides what clownbell said, we can always rename this thread to better reflect your intent.
- Red
Crimson Nape
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com
___________________________________
Useful Links -or- When All Else Fails:
The Guide to Understanding OSCAR
OSCAR Chart Organization
Attaching Images and Files on Apnea Board
Apnea Helpful Tips

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
Post Reply Post Reply
#9
RE: New member/Machine Problem
While I see you got your issue resolved, just wanted to say that events while you are awake is perfectly normal in the sense that an event is an event and the machine can not tell if you are awake or asleep, when I am just about tired enough to sleep or just waking up I often catch myself forgetting to breath for upwards of 30-40 seconds before I go "hmm something is off, oh I am forgetting to breath let me correct that", even though I am not asleep at that time as far as the machine is concerned it is an event because it doesn't know wither I am awake or asleep it just knows hey the breathing stopped without a major pressure change indicating the mask was removed and as such must be an event because you are not breathing while the machine and mask are on. As such having events happen while you are still awake doesn't mean the data is wrong per say because you can have an event while still awake, if the machine is on and the mask is on it is recording the data doesn't matter if you are asleep or awake.
Post Reply Post Reply
#10
RE: New member/Machine Problem
OK, I'm hoping to get some helpful advice to improve on my therapy.


Attached Files Thumbnail(s)
           
Post Reply Post Reply






Donate to Apnea Board  


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Made (Therapy Thread) Made 37 421 08-12-2022, 08:47 PM
Last Post: Sleeprider
Exclaimation [News] RECALL THREAD-- IMPORTANT PHILIPS DREAMSTATION & SYSTEM ONE USERS Sleeprider 2,264 214,859 08-12-2022, 02:21 PM
Last Post: chasmm
Gross Quarky68 Therapy Thread Quarky68 25 1,118 08-09-2022, 05:09 PM
Last Post: hh9797
  supercharge2 (Therapy Thread) supercharge2 8 117 08-09-2022, 11:55 AM
Last Post: supercharge2
  DanEm [Therapy Thread] DanEm 55 1,669 08-07-2022, 06:25 PM
Last Post: DanEm
  [Treatment] Tonkachonk's therapy thread Tonkachonk 14 400 08-06-2022, 05:15 PM
Last Post: Tonkachonk
  Doubleb (Therapy Thread) Doubleb 13 283 08-01-2022, 08:36 PM
Last Post: narual


New Posts   Today's Posts






About Apnea Board

Apnea Board is an educational web site designed to empower Sleep Apnea patients.