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BryanB Offline

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Machine: ResMed S9 AutoSet
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Mirage FX
Humidifier: H5i
CPAP Pressure: 6-15
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Post: #1
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Hi, I am looking at trying to buy a CPAP/APAP machine, but, because of my ridiculous health insurance, I am going to have to buy out of pocket. I did some sleep studies 6-10 years ago, and I was told I had sleep apnea, but at the time, the insurance said it wasn't 'bad enough' for them to cover treatment. My father has sleep apnea, I know I do as well, I snore loud enough to keep people on the other side of the house awake, I stop breathing at times during the night, I don't sleep well, I'm never rested, etc.

Anyway, I am simply overwhelmed at the amount of different machines out there, and dont really know where to start. I am a mouth breather, so I know I'll need a full face mask. But beyond that, i'm at a loss.

I am sure my regular doctor will give me a prescription, as most places I've seen do require one to purchase a machine. Although, are there reputable places to purchase used machines, that may be less expensive? What brand/type is best for the money, as I'll have to pay all out of pocket?

Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, my S/O is a light sleeper, and even the earplugs and such aren't enough to let her sleep, and at the same time, I know this is causing me other health issues that are only going to get worse.

Thank you
01-20-2013 12:39 PM
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Machine: ResMed S9 AutoSet
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Quattro FX
Humidifier: ResMed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 18 - 20
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: CMS50I PulseOx

Sex: Male
Location: Ohio - USA

Post: #2
RE: Questions
Welcome
Supplier #2 on the supplier list at the top of the page is a good place for used and new "opened box" machines.
In your circumstances I would suggest an auto titrating and data capable machine. ResMed S9 AutoSet (NOT Escape Auto) is a nice machine that fits the bill. There is a really good article on the board's wiki (at top of page) about picking a machine. You should check it out.
01-20-2013 12:54 PM
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trish6hundred Offline

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Machine: Resmed S9 AutoSet for Her
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Fisher & Paykel Simplus
Humidifier: H5i Heated Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: 10 - 7-20 Cm H2O
CPAP Software: Not using software

Other Comments: I started CPAP in 2008. Totally blind since birth.

Sex: Female
Location: Missouri, USA

Post: #3
RE: Questions
Hi BryanB,
WELCOME! to the forum.! There is a link on what CPAP machines to buy here on this forum. Also, you can look at the supplier list on this board; Supplier #2 is a good place to look for gently used, open-box machines. I think an auto-pap is the way to go.
Hang in there for more suggestions.
Best of luck to you on your decision and with CPAP therapy.

trish6hundred
01-20-2013 01:03 PM
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zonk Offline

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Machine: A10 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Activa LT
Humidifier: Integrated /ClimateLineAir
CPAP Pressure: 9/13
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments: CPAP since Nov 2010

Sex: Male
Location: Australia

Post: #4
RE: Questions
(01-20-2013 12:39 PM)BryanB Wrote:  I did some sleep studies 6-10 years ago, and I was told I had sleep apnea, but at the time, the insurance said it wasn't 'bad enough' for them to cover treatment.

Anyway, I am simply overwhelmed at the amount of different machines out there, and dont really know where to start. I am a mouth breather, so I know I'll need a full face mask. But beyond that, i'm at a loss.
Thank you
did you keep any copies of the sleep studies

machines such as S9 AutoSet can detect central sleep apnea but cannot diagnose or treat central sleep apnea

to make simple, for someone with just simple sleep apnea
I would recommend S9 AutoSet (Not S9 Escape Auto or S9 Escape) and ignore all other machines

The S9 AutoSet provide better data display on the lcd and supported by two free readily available software, ResScan and SleepHead

many folk who think they,re mouth breathers including myself, can use nasal successfully with the addition of chinstrap
chinstrap can helps minimize mouth leaks
01-20-2013 04:29 PM
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vsheline Offline

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Machine: S9 VPAP Adapt (USA Model# 36007, not better 36037 or 36067)
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F10 or SimPlus w/ 2Liners. MirageQuatro & Gecko gel pad
Humidifier: H5i
CPAP Pressure: 15 EPAP, PS 5-10
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments: Marfan Syndrome, chronic bradycardia, occasional Cheyne-Stokes Respiration

Sex: Male
Location: California, USA

Post: #5
RE: Questions
(01-20-2013 04:29 PM)zonk Wrote:  to make simple, for someone with just simple sleep apnea
I would recommend S9 AutoSet (Not S9 Escape Auto or S9 Escape) and ignore all other machines

Well, that's sure keeping it simple! Bigwink


Hi BryanB, welcome to the forum!

I believe the recommendations referred to earlier are here:

http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...ne_Choices

I think the "gently used" machines from Supplier #2 come with at least 6 month warrantee, even if they happen to have outlived their original warrantee. (Many units have low number of hours used, even if several years old.)

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01-20-2013 08:11 PM
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zonk Offline

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Sex: Male
Location: Australia

Post: #6
RE: Questions
(01-20-2013 08:11 PM)vsheline Wrote:  
(01-20-2013 04:29 PM)zonk Wrote:  to make simple, for someone with just simple sleep apnea
I would recommend S9 AutoSet (Not S9 Escape Auto or S9 Escape) and ignore all other machines

Well, that's sure keeping it simple! Bigwink
yes simple enough. call me simple Simon

I find too many choices confusing and time consuming
even when shopping in big supermarkets
always when get to the checkout to pay ... find that spend more money than there is in my wallet!

S9 AutoSet is choice #1
if wanted to save money than there is choice #2
check out Phillips Respironcis System One Auto with A-Flex from Supplier #1
new release machine $595 and the humidifier is included in the price

SleepyHead works with this machine
01-20-2013 09:22 PM
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PaulaO2 Offline
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Machine: S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: H5i
CPAP Pressure: 14-20
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, Hypermobility Type; chronic sarcasm

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Location: western NC, USA

Post: #7
RE: Questions
If I did not have the S9 Escape, I probably would have gotten the PRS1 auto. But since I had the Escape with the humidifier, I just had to buy the blower unit of the Autoset from Supplier #2. You will need a prescription for both mask and machine.

The good thing about an autoPAP is it can adjust the pressure according to what you need. And, if you prefer, you can use it to figure out the best pressure then set the machine to "straight" CPAP. Best of both worlds.

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01-20-2013 11:28 PM
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twindad Offline

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Machine: PRS1 Remstar Pro/Auto
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Mirage FX and Quattro FX
Humidifier: PRS1 heated/heated tube models
CPAP Pressure: 14 cpap / 10 to 16 auto
CPAP Software: SleepyHead EncoreBasic

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Sex: Male
Location: Southeastern United States

Post: #8
RE: Questions
(01-20-2013 09:22 PM)zonk Wrote:  S9 AutoSet is choice #1
if wanted to save money than there is choice #2
check out Phillips Respironcis System One Auto with A-Flex from Supplier #1
new release machine $595 and the humidifier is included in the price

SleepyHead works with this machine

Supplier #1 has new PRS1 Auto with Aflex series 50 units with humidifier for $595
Supplier #2 has "gently used" PRS1 Auto with Aflex series 50 units with humidifier for $399
I recently bought a PRS1 Auto with Aflex series 60 unit with the heated tube humidifier (DS560TS) from Supplier #9 for $649 and I really, really like this unit! I highly recommend this unit AND Supplier #9.
01-21-2013 01:47 AM
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zonk Offline

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Location: Australia

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RE: Questions
(01-21-2013 01:47 AM)twindad Wrote:  I recently bought a PRS1 Auto with Aflex series 60 unit with the heated tube humidifier (DS560TS) from Supplier #9 for $649 and I really, really like this unit! I highly recommend this unit AND Supplier #9.
I have not used them, they don,t ship outside US
I have used Supplier #2 and 10, both are reliable and delivered promptly

did they gave you discount
the price advertised on their site for DS560TS PRS1 with heated humidifier and heated tube ... MSRP: $979.00
[Get SALES PRICE Sent to Your Email or Use DISCOUNT CODE]
01-21-2013 02:09 AM
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Machine: Respironics PR System One BiPap Auto SV Advanced
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: ResMed gel Nasal Mask
Humidifier: System One
CPAP Pressure: 8-20 ASV, 8 EPAP,PS 12
CPAP Software: Not using software

Other Comments: I use the Quattro FFM when necessary

Sex: Female
Location: Norfolk, VA

Post: #10
RE: Questions
There are some very good new machines available at good prices. Just besure you can get a humidifier and it is data capable (shows AHI at the least)
You will need a prescription unless you have a prescription. Some people on other forums sell them on the forum. Good luck,
Mary
01-21-2013 12:54 PM
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