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RS01 sleep apnea screen meter
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Thanks for the reply Space45. It's always a gamble with this Chinese stuff without an opinion from someone who's tried it first. I was able to get a copy of the manual by contacting the company (very helpful) on their web site - contecmed. I can't post links or else I would repost the link they sent me to the manual.
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(03-30-2014, 10:04 PM)Dgsr Wrote:
(03-20-2014, 05:18 PM)space45 Wrote: did I mention the long wait times for docs in B.C. Canada, I am and have been seeing a doc, waiting to see a sleep specialist
so glad the USA is trying to get to this model!

There is something wrong with the description or something wrong with healthcare management in his province.

(03-20-2014, 05:18 PM)space45 Wrote: The doc still did not send me to a sleep clinic till I bugged the hell out of him, did I mention the doc have attitude here in B.C.

All I can say is that my experience is vastly different. The DME in my region has been amazing (7 week planned trial of an S9 AutoSet with bi-weekly followup for $30 and no commitment to purchase).

The provincial government has stepped in to limit DME overcharging by capping the cost for the various classes of machine. They are limited to U.S. on-line retail pricing.

I am glad to read that you are getting support from this forum. I hope you feel better soon.

(03-20-2014, 05:18 PM)space45 Wrote: so far my low for o2 is 47%

lots of time in the 50 to 60%

A technical question: are finger oxygen sensors capable of measuring below 70%? Still a big concern to see numbers drop so low but as far as I can tell these devices specify no accuracy below saturation level of 70%.
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glad to hear things are working well in your province, but where I am one has to work at getting things done.

at first my doc wanted to give me antidepressant pills seeing as I was gaining weight and not as happy as I should be. I felt some what down but mostly drained and was forgetting things and my day would evaporate with me only getting like 5 minuets worth of work done. I could not concentrate or focus on any one thing, would get distracted easily and forget things constantly. I told the doc I was not depressed just not feeling good at all and bagged big time. he then said I was getting old and to get used to it, down hill from here.

a friend of mine was going through something very smiler and his doc had also offered the antidepressant pills, like me he said he was not depressed so no thanks. he read about low testosterone and had his doc do testing and indeed he was circling the drain low and now gets shots for it. I told my doc about this and asked for the testing he did not want to so I ended up having to demanded it so he tested me and I was circling the drain low as well, much to the surprise of my doc. so now I get shots, but for some the extra T raises estrogen levels, for me it goes extremely high, for my friend his is not as bad, my friends doc checks for high estrogen but my doc would not check till I bugged him enough about it. so off to the endocrinologist to see why, over 2.5 years later and still they have no answers. over a year just to get the first appointment with extra pushing by my doc to get me in fast to see him, big waste of time, then big waiting times between appointments 4 to 8 month. still no closer to a answer.

so about a year ago I said I snore and it is bugging the wife, what can be done, he sent me to IRS a sleep testing and sales company in town. they said I have the worst sleep apnea they have ever seen and tried to sell me a $1500 basic low end machine, they said it was the cheapest and low end one they had and it SHOULD work for me. they did loan me one for about 2 weeks, took some time to dial it in, they would ask me questions and tweak there unit over a cell phone connection they had to the machine they had lent me. it did not seem to have any feed back to them as they said nothing about the air exiting my mouth or the other mask leaks, so leak detection was not part of the machine or they did not look at the data from the machine that close, if there was any data. seeing as I did not feel any better from using their machine for a week after they had DIALED it in for me I did not want to shell out $1500 of my own money plus close to $200 for a mask for their cheapest low end machine that SHOULD do the job but do nothing to make one feel better.

I wanted to be sent to a proper sleep testing place but doc would not, not till just recently when I told him about my waking up and gasping for air, even after I was awake I still could not get any air, thought I was a dead man. that got my doc to send me to a sleep clinic and me to get on the net and find this forum and then order a machine BEFORE waiting how ever long to see a real sleep doc at a real sleep clinic for a real sleep test.

like I said I am glad things work better where you live, BTW, are you SURE you do not have any other insurance paying the bills and that it is indeed the provincial government paying for your unit? here they pay nothing, if I was employed with extra insurance or self employed and gave myself a extra insurance policy then I am sure I would be covered, but the B.C. government will not pay one cent for any CPAP machine unless I was disabled. in B.C. that means fully disabled as they stopped having any levels of partly disabled. your full or nothing, and full means full, your totally screwed up and unable to work. any sign of being able to fend for yourself and your off any disability help, only thing left is welfare. not sure if welfare would do much for you, but the medical system will not help with out you being disabled.

BTW, just a note of interest for the ones that say just go to a new doc, here we can not just go to a new doc, they will not take anyone new that is being looked after by a doc. the only option is walk in clinics and they have life time limits of use if you have a regular doc. X amount of times per clinic, the amount varies per clinic.

that is why I asked my doc to be referred to a new doc. funny thing was after I did that he was much better. he knew I was not happy with his service.
the docs really do have attitudes here, not just me, just about every one I know has problems with their doc. a friend of mine died because of his doc, for just about a year he had gone into see his doc, the doc happened to also be one of the local internal specialist we have here. the doc kept sending him home, take a few aspirins and see if that helps sort of thing. one time the doc was on holidays and his stand in did a quick exam of my friend and sent him straight to the hospital telling him she thinks he has cancer and needs testing to find out for sure, sure enough she was right but to late to save him. our docs have way to much power and control. they are not doing there jobs, they are lazy and not even interested in doing their jobs, not all, but most. the sad thing is we are stuck with what ever doc we get, the only way to get a second opinion is using a walk in clinic. with the electronic data system we have here there is no way to not let a doc know your being looked after by a local doc already. your screwed big time, only by referrals or retirements can you get a new doc here.

not sure about the lower o2 limit of a finger tester, just stating what the readouts were, I for one would be glad if they could not read below 70% as the thought of being down to 47% is down right scary, hence the reason of my going out and buying a machine like I did with out seeing the sleep doc first. scared the hell out of me, and the waking up not breathing part also scared me into action.

(03-31-2014, 05:32 PM)SleepWrangler Wrote:
(03-30-2014, 10:04 PM)Dgsr Wrote:
(03-20-2014, 05:18 PM)space45 Wrote: did I mention the long wait times for docs in B.C. Canada, I am and have been seeing a doc, waiting to see a sleep specialist
so glad the USA is trying to get to this model!

There is something wrong with the description or something wrong with healthcare management in his province.

(03-20-2014, 05:18 PM)space45 Wrote: The doc still did not send me to a sleep clinic till I bugged the hell out of him, did I mention the doc have attitude here in B.C.

All I can say is that my experience is vastly different. The DME in my region has been amazing (7 week planned trial of an S9 AutoSet with bi-weekly followup for $30 and no commitment to purchase).

The provincial government has stepped in to limit DME overcharging by capping the cost for the various classes of machine. They are limited to U.S. on-line retail pricing.

I am glad to read that you are getting support from this forum. I hope you feel better soon.

(03-20-2014, 05:18 PM)space45 Wrote: so far my low for o2 is 47%

lots of time in the 50 to 60%

A technical question: are finger oxygen sensors capable of measuring below 70%? Still a big concern to see numbers drop so low but as far as I can tell these devices specify no accuracy below saturation level of 70%.

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(03-31-2014, 11:25 PM)space45 Wrote: Glad to hear things are working well in your province, but where I am one has to work at getting things done.

Yes, I see you are taking charge and making progress. Really pleased to see that you are on the right track. If my family doctor hadn't raised the possibility of apnea then I would still be in a mental fog trying to understand why life was quickly being drained out of me. Impressive that you've gotten this far largely because of your tenacity.

(03-31-2014, 11:25 PM)space45 Wrote: Like I said I am glad things work better where you live, BTW, are you SURE you do not have any other insurance paying the bills and that it is indeed the provincial government paying for your unit?

I am certain that employment insurance is playing no role. My company is lowering startup costs by using a private insurer that only repays expenses as submitted. Until I submit a claim, which I have not, and get a check in hand there is no guarantee they will pay anything. I haven't checked because it doesn't matter. I need the therapy regardless.

Anyone who is a resident of Ontario with a valid Ontario Heath Card is eligible to apply for funding through the ADP Program. This is a universal program and acceptance is not affected by financial situation other than extra funding allowed for some low income clients.
Source: http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/programs/adp/

Things are going well enough that I am wondering when the shoe is going to drop. The rules governing DME suppliers only changed on March 1st so maybe the DME pre-sales trial policies have not caught up with recent ADP funding changes. We shall see. Oh-jeez

Here is the Respiratory Equipment Policy and Administration Manual for Ontario. It outlines the rules for CPAP therapy.

.pdf   respiratory_equipment_manual.pdf (Size: 257.74 KB / Downloads: 255)

Recent changes are described here.

I look forward to reading of your continued success as you progress through the therapy Stan!
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