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Rainout with heated hose
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Rainout with heated hose
My first night with the Resmed heated tube and P10 nasal pillows. 'Climate Control' set to 'Auto'. The air felt warm (warmer than ambient; 60°F), so I assume it's working. Around 0400, awoke to a freshwater sinus rinse from condensation in the hose. Woke up, field-stripped the P10 and shook everything out, laid the hose so the excess hose formed a water trap, and went back to bed. My sinuses do feel better from the humidified air than they usually do from the central heating.
Also discovered that the higher I place the strap, the more comfortable the nasal pillows, but the more likely I am to rub the whole thing off on the pillow. Lower on the head is more secure, but rotates the pillows just enough to place obnoxious upward pressure on my nose.
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RE: Rainout with heated hose
I have the humidifer set to 5 and have to set the temperature to its highest setting (I think 86?) to keep the hose dry. The ambient air temp in our house at night is 62. I wonder if having the ambient so low contributes to condensation in the hose.
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RE: Rainout with heated hose
Yes, that is possible having the room temp on the cooler side may contribute to condensation. And yes, 86 degrees F is the top setting on the heated hose with ResMed devices.
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RE: Rainout with heated hose
I use a heated hose, and also cover it with a Snugglehose fleece cover. Any hose needs to be routed upward from the machine before descending to your mask. You will never get a sinus rinse if you do this.
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RE: Rainout with heated hose
Hi Emmet,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
Good luck with CPAP therapy.
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RE: Rainout with heated hose
I'm using Aircurve 10 with max humidifier at 8 and max temp at 30C,manual settings. Whats more the hose is not rooted upwards at all, the device is about 30 cm above my head, the hose dangling as it goes. No face rain whatsover, more like dry mouth and throat. Not to mention the whole room is cold since my window is 24/7 open winter/summer.

Try using Dreamwear from philips its got good protections against unwanted 'rubbing off'. Never fell of my face and I move like crazy.
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RE: Rainout with heated hose
I use a heated hose and fleece hose cover as well.
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RE: Rainout with heated hose
Quote:"Any hose needs to be routed upward from the machine before descending to your mask. You will never get a sinus rinse if you do this."

Apparently, I'm an exception to that rule. My heated hose goes up through a hose holder and down to my mask, and I got the 'neti pot' treatment anyway.
The heated hose appears to be working; at least, it's warm to the touch; warmer than the P10's hose. I assume it has to do with the temperature differential in a cold room. I turned 'Climate' to 'Manual', set 'Humidity' to '4', and the temperature to 85°F, and put on a hose cover. Hopefully come Spring when all the windows are open, the 'Auto' feature will work better.
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RE: Rainout with heated hose
(02-11-2018, 01:29 PM)Emmet Wrote: Apparently, I'm an exception to that rule. My heated hose goes up through a hose holder and down to my mask, and I got the 'neti pot' treatment anyway.
The heated hose appears to be working; at least, it's warm to the touch; warmer than the P10's hose.

I've had the same thing and concluded it is the unheated short hose on the P10 that is responsible. 

I've found two things that help. First is just pull down the hose from the hanger a bit so the short P10 hose lays across your body and keeps warm. The other is increase the heated hose temp while leaving the humidity level on auto. 

I use the first method. for me this is really only and issue in the spring or fall when I have the heat off and the windows open.
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RE: Rainout with heated hose
I cover the short hose from the P10 with the fleece hose cover. I'd rather leave a bit of the heated hose near the machine uncovered than not protect that small hose.
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