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ResMed AirSense 10 AutoSet
#21
(09-23-2014, 12:36 AM)Neil Clugston Wrote: Hi, anyone got the Resmed AirSense 10 Autoset Wifi working?

it doesn't have wifi. It has a built in cellular modem.
The product description should be more specific, as many of us associate 'wireless' with Wi-Fi.. NOT !
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From the manual:-

Quote:Wireless
Your AirSense 10 device is equipped with cellular communication. This allows your therapy data to
be wirelessly transmitted to your care provider to enhance the quality of your treatment. The
Wireless signal strength icon displayed at the top right of your screen indicates the signal
strength.
The data is usually transmitted after therapy has stopped. In order to make sure that your data is
transferred, leave your device connected to the mains power at all times and make sure that it is not
in Airplane Mode.
Notes:
 Therapy data might not be transmitted if you use it outside of the country or region of purchase.
 Devices with cellular communication might not be available in all regions.

I lack understanding how this can happen as in Oz you need to have an mobile account and a SIM card inserted in the phone so the device can connect to the mobile network.

I am though, assuming the cellular network is the same network as the mobile phone network. Perhaps the cellular network to which they are referring is some other network?

One would imagine that the "Provider" would have to log onto the machine? It is all a bit vague and seems to be the dark science of black magic.
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(10-05-2014, 07:37 PM)Skypilot Wrote: From the manual:-

Quote:Wireless
Your AirSense 10 device is equipped with cellular communication. This allows your therapy data to
be wirelessly transmitted to your care provider to enhance the quality of your treatment. The
Wireless signal strength icon displayed at the top right of your screen indicates the signal
strength.
The data is usually transmitted after therapy has stopped. In order to make sure that your data is
transferred, leave your device connected to the mains power at all times and make sure that it is not
in Airplane Mode.
Notes:
 Therapy data might not be transmitted if you use it outside of the country or region of purchase.
 Devices with cellular communication might not be available in all regions.

I lack understanding how this can happen as in Oz you need to have an mobile account and a SIM card inserted in the phone so the device can connect to the mobile network.

I am though, assuming the cellular network is the same network as the mobile phone network. Perhaps the cellular network to which they are referring is some other network?

One would imagine that the "Provider" would have to log onto the machine? It is all a bit vague and seems to be the dark science of black magic.

If I owned one of these, it would be in Airplane Mode 24/7/365. If someone wants to see my data, it will be via SD card, period!

At this point, when I go looking for a backup machine (which I should do soon), it will likely be another S9 Autoset.

A.Becker
PAPing in NE Ohio, with a pack of Cairn terriers
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#24
I don't know. As far as being able to look at my data is concerned I guess if someone lacks any sort of life so they get their kicks looking at my Resmed data, then have at it. "Oh look! Retired guy just hit 17 on his leak chart! Quick, twitter someone."
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(10-05-2014, 07:37 PM)Skypilot Wrote: I lack understanding how this can happen as in Oz you need to have an mobile account and a SIM card inserted in the phone so the device can connect to the mobile network.

I am though, assuming the cellular network is the same network as the mobile phone network. Perhaps the cellular network to which they are referring is some other network?

One would imagine that the "Provider" would have to log onto the machine? It is all a bit vague and seems to be the dark science of black magic.


Cellular and mobile are the same, yes. There probably is a kind of SIM card inside the device but since it does not need anything but to transfer data, it is not anywhere near the size and type of the SIM card in a mobile phone.

Consider it like a mobile phone fax machine. Or an old style modem. It calls up the provider (the DME, most likely) using their designated line. It then sends the "fax" (probably the machine ID (which is assigned to your file) and your data) and ends the call. Done. And just like a fax machine, the DME can call your device. It can reset your machine settings. This is pretty much what the modems/whatever are doing on the S9s now except they are addons while this thing on the A10 is integrated.

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(10-06-2014, 04:05 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote: Cellular and mobile are the same, yes. There probably is a kind of SIM card inside the device but since it does not need anything but to transfer data, it is not anywhere near the size and type of the SIM card in a mobile phone.

Consider it like a mobile phone fax machine. Or an old style modem. It calls up the provider (the DME, most likely) using their designated line. It then sends the "fax" (probably the machine ID (which is assigned to your file) and your data) and ends the call. Done. And just like a fax machine, the DME can call your device. It can reset your machine settings. This is pretty much what the modems/whatever are doing on the S9s now except they are addons while this thing on the A10 is integrated.

My point is you still need to have an account that is permitted to connect to the mobile network - you can't just connect to the mobile network.

The logon details/credentials still need to be entered into the sim. The S10 needs to know which number to dial to get to the right place. The DME needs to know what is the telephone number or ident number of your machine. There is no configuration screen that I can see on the machine.

I do not see how it just happens when a network is available.

I see there is a slot under the "adapter cover" (item 7 on page 3 of the S10 manual) - I suspect something is connected to that slot.
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#27
(10-05-2014, 07:37 PM)Skypilot Wrote: I lack understanding how this can happen as in Oz you need to have an mobile account and a SIM card inserted in the phone so the device can connect to the mobile network.

I am though, assuming the cellular network is the same network as the mobile phone network. Perhaps the cellular network to which they are referring is some other network?

One would imagine that the "Provider" would have to log onto the machine? It is all a bit vague and seems to be the dark science of black magic.

I bought my AirSense 10 AutoSet from a supplier in the US and the display shows the no connection pic on the panel and has done from day 1. I'm not fussed as it's a feature I don't want or need and I don't think it really has that much of an impact for us in Oz anyway as we don't have the compliance requirements for insurance like our US cpapping cousins do. My feeling from everything I've read on the forum is that's it's less of a selling point for the end user and more a feature aimed at the DME, prompt collection of compliance data probably speeds up the payment process from the insurance companies.
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#28
Skypilot, I think the big corporates do deals with the big telcos so that connection is automatic, pre-coded in the built-in sim. Amazon Kindles do the same thing - no need to log on to the network or dial a number, just turn on "wireless" and it connects.
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#29
My home alarm system utilizes the same cellular feature. The company has control over the celluar transmisison.
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