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Rough Night on Titration - When Does the Suffocation feeling go away?
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Rough Night on Titration - When Does the Suffocation feeling go away?
I'm still doing home titration and I had a bad night. When does the suffocation feeling go away Sad

The high pressure wakes me up in the middle of the night and it really scares me - I find it hard to breathe against the pressure.

I don't know my numbers because I am on titration still. I really hope things get easier after titration.

Feeling a little down...and I need to find a less claustrophobic mask. Oh-jeez
11-12-2015 04:43 PM
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RE: Rough Night on Titration - When Does the Suffocation feeling go away?
linn,
That suffocation feeling can be from an ill fitting mask, a pressure that is too low, or just the fact that you are not used to cpap therapy.

Just because your on Titration doesn't mean you shouldn't know your pressure.
What type of machine did they give you to titrate on?

You need to ask your doctor or whoever you are dealing with in Canada, as I know things are run much differently than in the US. Find out your pressure, and ask if there is an EPR setting you can use. This is a comfort feature that will help you breath against the pressure.

Next, fill out you profile, even if the machine and mask are temporary. You can always change it later.

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11-12-2015 06:20 PM
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linn Offline

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RE: Rough Night on Titration - When Does the Suffocation feeling go away?
(11-12-2015 06:20 PM)OpalRose Wrote:  linn,
That suffocation feeling can be from an ill fitting mask, a pressure that is too low, or just the fact that you are not used to cpap therapy.

Just because your on Titration doesn't mean you shouldn't know your pressure.
What type of machine did they give you to titrate on?

You need to ask your doctor or whoever you are dealing with in Canada, as I know things are run much differently than in the US. Find out your pressure, and ask if there is an EPR setting you can use. This is a comfort feature that will help you breath against the pressure.

Next, fill out you profile, even if the machine and mask are temporary. You can always change it later.

Hi Opal, Thanks for the feedback :grin: I filled out my data.

The Dr. said that if I do 2 more nights of titration that he will set me with a pressure number. My range is 5-20 for the titration and I can't see the numbers in the middle of the night. I have no idea how high the numbers go when I am in REM. They are recording everything so I can't touch the data card.

I looked for an EPR setting and I couldn't find one.

My doctor says that I need to wear it during the day to get acclimatized. I don't mind doing the work - I just want to know if it gets easier. I am wearing the mask now and it is at 5.7 - quite comfortable pressure but a bit hot and stuffy.
11-12-2015 06:37 PM
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RE: Rough Night on Titration - When Does the Suffocation feeling go away?
you get used to it amazingly fast. the suffocation feeling at higher pressure could be alleviated by a higher EPR - but honestly it takes little time before you are completely used to the pressure. That said - I max my EPR as a preference.

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Tongue Suck Technique for prevention of mouth breathing:
  • Place your tongue behind your front teeth on the roof of your mouth
  • let your tongue fill the space between the upper molars
  • gently suck to form a light vacuum
Practising during the day can help you to keep it at night

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11-12-2015 06:46 PM
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linn Offline

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RE: Rough Night on Titration - When Does the Suffocation feeling go away?
(11-12-2015 06:46 PM)DariaVader Wrote:  you get used to it amazingly fast. the suffocation feeling at higher pressure could be alleviated by a higher EPR - but honestly it takes little time before you are completely used to the pressure. That said - I max my EPR as a preference.

Thanks Daria Smile When you say fast - is that a week, month or more? When they give me my permanent CPAP I am going to ask them to set the EPR for me. I am also going to ask for the DreamWear mask

I can't believe how deep I sleep on the CPAP - it's almost like I'm drugged.
11-12-2015 07:19 PM
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RE: Rough Night on Titration - When Does the Suffocation feeling go away?
Everyone is different, but the first week was probably the hardest for me. Even still tho, some nights I cant feel it there and others I struggle some.

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Tongue Suck Technique for prevention of mouth breathing:
  • Place your tongue behind your front teeth on the roof of your mouth
  • let your tongue fill the space between the upper molars
  • gently suck to form a light vacuum
Practising during the day can help you to keep it at night

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11-12-2015 11:22 PM
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RE: Rough Night on Titration - When Does the Suffocation feeling go away?
I just started using the same machine 2 weeks ago and also struggled with feelings of suffocation. I got some great advice here to try turning up the minimum pressure. I was prescribed 4 to 14. I slowly increased the minimum pressure to 8 and the feeling of not getting enough air is gone. I actually have to lift my mask now to be sure its on.

I also struggled with exhaling against the pressure, especially since I have asthma. The pressure relief feature helps a lot.
11-12-2015 11:57 PM
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RE: Rough Night on Titration - When Does the Suffocation feeling go away?
(11-12-2015 04:43 PM)linn Wrote:  I'm still doing home titration and I had a bad night. When does the suffocation feeling go away Sad

It goes away as soon as your doctor decides to not be a slacker, and puts you ahead of his convenience.

If he had set a reasonable range to start, like 7-12, you could have tried that for a while, gotten used to it, then he could have checked it again and decided if the range needed to be changed.

Sending you home the machine set to "wide open" *might* be more convenient for him, but is almost guaranteed to be a bad time for you when starting out.

There are (at least) two places where people feel like they can't breathe:
  • When the pressure is too low and the mask doesn't ventilate enough (not enough air through the exhaust port)
  • When the pressure is too high and you feel "inflated" and can't exhale enough

These are both caused by letting the pressure get too low or too high.

The machine should make you happier and your breathing easier. It's not supposed to be a torture device.

Terry
(This post was last modified: 11-13-2015 09:20 AM by Terry.)
11-13-2015 09:12 AM
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RE: Rough Night on Titration - When Does the Suffocation feeling go away?
Thanks everyone...I slept quite well last night and I am dealing with the suffocation feelings. I will ask the Dr. to make the machine more comfortable for me.

I haven't slept this deep since I was a child and I can't believe that this went undiagnosed for 20+ years. It's going to take my body a long to heal.
11-13-2015 09:31 AM
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RE: Rough Night on Titration - When Does the Suffocation feeling go away?
Feeling of suffocation or having to use too much effort to breath are quickly fixed by increasing minimum pressure. It will be interesting to hear what your doctor comes up with. Keep in touch.

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