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S9 AutoSet - Noise at the breathing out!
#81
I called mine today to discuss upgrading. They said they use the S9s for the basic models but anything over that, they go with Respironics. I'm betting its because the profit margin is higher with the lower cost Respironic autoset vs the Resmed.
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#82
I had a feeling I would end up buying the machine myself. I had to do that with my first machine as well.

But at least a 60% reimbursment is better than not getting the machine I want.

The Rx I got from my sleep Doc specifically notes to "Fill only as written" and has the machine as the Resmed S9 AutoSet.

It's always the same when dealing with these Evil DME's.
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#83
(04-20-2012, 06:27 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote: I called mine today to discuss upgrading. They said they use the S9s for the basic models but anything over that, they go with Respironics. I'm betting its because the profit margin is higher with the lower cost Respironic autoset vs the Resmed.

Almost certainly. Personally, when I was sent to an RT by my dr...and it just happened to be in the building, and just happened to be the only one he mentioned to me... and just happened to be the only one of the 3 in town that didn't know as much about Auto-Pap machines as *I* did... Well, when I mentioned my theory that the Dr had some sort of financial involvement with the RT and *both* of the other RT centers in town said "well... we can't really comment about that. But... You're on to something... "

Didn't really surprise me that this was the only RT that told me how hard it was to get APAP approved by OHIP (ON, Canada). And about all the criteria they had to prove. And that OHIP pays 100% of APAP cost (totally wrong, I'd already looked that up...)

He only agreed to write me the appropriate prescription when I told him I'd buy it myself, online, for about as much as my co-pay was going to be anyhow...

Then I went to the other RT's in town... One had 'em in stock, I left with it 2 hours later.


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#84
I see that I am not alone with the noise on exhale.

I have done some testing and can confirm that it is not the mask or the hose. Try this, remove the mask so only the hose is connected. Turn on the machine (my is automatic to a pressure of 11). Block the end with your thumb and you will hear the same (or very similar noise, maybe louder) from the machine itself. It is back pressure on the system (motor?) that causes the noise. Exhaling is really doing the same thing, that is blocking the hose (only not so drastically). When wearing the mask if you don't exhale so deeply the noise is not as load, but who wants to adapt how they exhale, although I do it now to lessen the noise. I tried the smaller nasal mask and this lessens the noise significantly, but it is not as comfortable as the medium or large nasal mask.

I would say that this is a flaw in the S9 system.

My old ResMed S6 Elite gave up the ghost after 13 years (~31000 hours) and I rented the new S9 until my health plan supplied me with a new S9. I noticed the noise on the new machine immediately (both rental and supplied unit). I wish I still had my S6 as it was an awesome machine. I guess new isn't always better. :-(
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(10-06-2012, 11:21 AM)DBC Wrote: When wearing the mask if you don't exhale so deeply the noise is not as load, but who wants to adapt how they exhale, although I do it now to lessen the noise.

I have noticed that as I relax and forget about monitoring the machine's noise level, and that I'm wearing a mask and am hooked up to a machine, my breathing pattern naturally softens and I don't hear the machine at all. If I start thinking about it I get a little anxious, my breathing rate increases, and I can hear the machine again.
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#86
I have a S9 and placement of the machine makes a noticeable difference. My machine is on a nightstand a foot lower than the bed. This big difference is to place the back of the machine away from me.
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#87
My S9 autoset is only 3 weeks old and the noise on exhilation is barely noticeable and the machine itself is virtually silent. The machine sits at the same height as my bed on a glass topped wooden filing cabinet and I am no more than a foot away from it. I have asked my partner about noise during the night and the response was 'I don't hear it'. I do have my machine set to a fixed pressure of 10 until after my next appointment with my sleep specialist.
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#88
My S9 makes that whistling noise on breathing out but it's bearly noticable, it sits on my nightstand at the same heighth of my bed. My husband doesn't hear it. I really like the S9.
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#89
The whistling on mine is rather intermittent. It can go for weeks and not make the sound. Then, it'll do it for several nights then stop. Right now the problem isn't the whistling, but just noise. It used to be very, very quiet. Now it is very loud. I've had to start putting the mask on, then turning on the machine, just to eliminate the additional noise of air coming out the mask.

And it is the machine, not the mask. I've taken the mask off the main hose and it still is loud.
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#90
Sounds like it's time for a new machine! Is that PRS1 550P price lookin' good?
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