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RE: Sacked for having a cup of coffee on the job
When I was working, I was walking in with a cup, usually the 3rd or 4th one before I even started work.
06-13-2016 07:53 PM
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RE: Sacked for having a cup of coffee on the job
There is a cure for this kind of thing, l but it may be a dirty word. "U***n".

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RE: Sacked for having a cup of coffee on the job
(06-14-2016 03:40 PM)eseedhouse Wrote:  There is a cure for this kind of thing, l but it may be a dirty word. "U***n".

I don't have a problem with unions, people need the ability to have a chance with big business, but I don't see this as a problem of a company taking advantage of an employee. I see a break of rules that were agreed to when he employee went to work there and then being terminated for the breach.

If someone "told" the employee that it was okay to drink the clients coffee after they were told not too, they should have confirmed it with their manager before taking it on their own to break the rules.

I just believe that an employment agreement should be honored, I spent too many years watching people complain when they got caught doing things they knew they weren't supposed to do, and then complaining that "everyone does it"...

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RE: Sacked for having a cup of coffee on the job
(06-16-2016 06:59 AM)FrankNichols Wrote:  
(06-14-2016 03:40 PM)eseedhouse Wrote:  There is a cure for this kind of thing, l but it may be a dirty word. "U***n".

I don't have a problem with unions, people need the ability to have a chance with big business, but I don't see this as a problem of a company taking advantage of an employee. I see a break of rules that were agreed to when he employee went to work there and then being terminated for the breach.

If someone "told" the employee that it was okay to drink the clients coffee after they were told not too, they should have confirmed it with their manager before taking it on their own to break the rules.

I just believe that an employment agreement should be honored, I spent too many years watching people complain when they got caught doing things they knew they weren't supposed to do, and then complaining that "everyone does it"...

Without a union there is a serious power imbalance that means the employee generally doesn't have any real bargaining power. An infraction as slight as drinking the employer's coffee would never result in dismissal in a union shop, generally it would however lead to at least a warning or even a suspension after a first few offence. Keep repeating the offence and eventually you'd lose your job, but discipline must be applied reasonably and appropriately in a union shop.

That doesn't mean that no one gets fired in a unionized workplace. I was president of my union at work and there were several firings that we didn't take to arbitration simply because firings were, as a matter of fact, the appropriate discipline. We would almost certainly lose an arbitration and a pile of our member's money in the process.

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06-18-2016 03:28 PM
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RE: Sacked for having a cup of coffee on the job
(06-18-2016 03:28 PM)eseedhouse Wrote:  Without a union there is a serious power imbalance that means the employee generally doesn't have any real bargaining power.

I completely agree, which is why so much effort has been put into trying to kill off the unions - big business doesn't like to be told they have to follow rules and honor contracts.

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