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Should I try the Airfit P10 or Resp Nuance mask
#1
I have tired the resmed Swift Fx nasal pillows now for 4 months. I want to try another mask to see if one fits better and if I can get better AHI readings. I am looking at the resmed p10 or the respironics nuance. Has anyone tried both of these to tell me which to try. I am basically a side sleeper and not one to sleep on his back. I use the resmed airsense 10 with a 7.6-13.6 range for now and a 10min ramp.

thanks people!!
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#2
I have used both. I loved the Nuance - but their headgear is odd. The back strap is tacky on purpose to help hold it on. In theory. The problem is it can/did get gross quickly. The last one I had, it seemed they had fixed the problem.

I hated the P10. In terms of advancement with the headgear, the P10 went completely backward. There are no adjustments. It was the only mask to give me a sore nose. And it was a sore on the outside because it squished my wee nose so much at night. I tried a lot of the tricks to try and stretch the headgear, but it never worked. Others have modified it because they love the nasal interface part so much.

The P10s big advantage is the way they diffused the venting. That mask is so freakin' quiet. And the vent is soft so there's no noise against the sheets. That would be a plus for you as a side sleeper.

The Nuance does not go into the nostrils, but sits on the outside. There's a little nubbin that kinda goes in but nothing like most of the nasal pillows. It sits well on the face and doesn't get knocked out of place. I slept on my side a lot with it. It stayed in place with my high pressures just fine.

If your head fits the P10 and you want the quiet, try that one. But if you are like 99.9% of the population and your head does not fit it, then go with the Nuance. They are both great masks but with headgear quirks.
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#3
P10 review thread http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...AirFit-P10
It's a long thread, though.

Nuance review thread: http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...ask-Review
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#4
Tried both and ended up sticking with the Nuance pro. Only mask that gives me zero leaks.
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#5
P10 adjustment takes a bit of getting used to and is not intuitive if you don't have someone tell you how to do it: there are two straps on the back and to make it looser, you actually spread the straps. I often go to sleep with one practically on top of my head and the other almost on my neck. If it's too loose, you start to push the straps toward the middle.

If you just put it on like a normal headband and don't spread it, you're likely going to be in for a bad time unless you have a really small head.
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#6
spreading it also increases the stability. I *do* have a small head but wear them spread after pulling my hair in between them. If they sit on top of the hair, i would have to wear them together and it slips around a lot more. Incidentally, spreading them decreases the size difference in heads a bit, since it isn't really going around as much of the head Smile
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#7
I experienced a significant improvement in leaks, comfort and AHI going from Swift FX to the P10. It's worth trying a different mask. You won't miss that jet of air from the FX and the relatively heavy barrel where the hose connects.
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#8
I prefer the Nuance fabric model to the Nuance Pro, and to the P10. I'm a fairly active sleeper, side to back to other side several times a night,
and I have yet to dislodge the Nuance. My P10 was flying all over the room. Smile

I get good AHIs and zero leaks with the Nuance.
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#9
I've been on therapy for 2 months now. First month I used the Swift FX, and the second month the P10's. I am mostly a side sleeper and have woken up several times hearing big air leaks from the P10's from moving around in bed.

I went back to the Swift FX last night and found it felt that it stayed put on my face much better than the P10's and did not have any known leaks. I wish the air diffuser was more like the P10's, but think I'll probably end up ordering the Swift FX's For Her as soon as my doc writes my permanent script for my CPAP machine. I like the look of the Nuance Pro mask, but unless I can trial it first, I'll probably stick with the Swift.
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#10
Hi there - I am relatively new to this CPAP form of life. I have a Respironic Nuance Pro for 10 weeks. I sleep on my side but it would always leak due to the pillow pressure affecting the "fit" of the mask. I have got a chip strap (two weeks ago) and now find the leaks have been much reduced (and confimed by Sleepy Head) and the mask and chin strap hold their positions. I have a beard so this is what the Sleep Clinic gave me.
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