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Sleep Study with Overactive Bladder??
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RE: Sleep Study with Overactive Bladder??
I don't know how available the service is in your area, but I was diagnosed with a home sleep study. It certainly was not a real pleasant experience trying to sleep with the equipment on, but it is battery powered and all self contained. It is no problem to get up to go to the bathroom with it on. I wore it for 7 hours and it felt like I only slept about 3 of those hours. The machine I guess reported more.

It gives a pretty detailed report on the type and frequency of apnea events and the position you are in when you have them. It reports on oxygen levels during sleep too. Not sure how it would deal with the grunting situation you describe though.

Here is a youtube video that gives you a good idea of what you have to put on to do the test. 

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(04-19-2018, 10:12 AM)Ron AKA Wrote: I don't know how available the service is in your area, but I was diagnosed with a home sleep study. It certainly was not a real pleasant experience trying to sleep with the equipment on, but it is battery powered and all self contained. It is no problem to get up to go to the bathroom with it on. I wore it for 7 hours and it felt like I only slept about 3 of those hours. The machine I guess reported more.

It gives a pretty detailed report on the type and frequency of apnea events and the position you are in when you have them. It reports on oxygen levels during sleep too. Not sure how it would deal with the grunting situation you describe though.

Here is a youtube video that gives you a good idea of what you have to put on to do the test. 

Phillips Alice NightOne

Ron had a home sleep study that determined he did not have sleep apnea. His primary problem is that his doctor is supportive and clueless.  With his complication of constant arousals and need to go to the bathroom, a home sleep study would invariably under-estimate apnea. The home sleep study measure apnea and hypopnea from the moment it is turned on until it is turned off, and uses that time to determine the AHI.  So with many arousals, there are relatively few events, and the entire time of the test is used to create the index..A+H/time.  While a sleep lab uses only actual time asleep as determined by the EEG, the home sleep study uses all the time.

Ron was rejected from a clinical PSG because he didn't sleep. His HST was an error because he didn't sleep, and his brilliant doctor has managed to conclude he therefore doesn't have sleep apnea.  Nice situation, huh?  He clearly needs a different medical team that has a clue, or any test will be worthless.
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Ron, it is impossible to do a sleep study for someone who has to get up 10-15 times a night. Many of us, precpap, get up 3-4 times a night. You are right - you are stuck between a rock and a hard place. However, since you already know you likely have sleep apnea, get either a used machine from Amazon (no prescription required) or a used one from Craigslist (see the stickies about that). Specifically, you want an S9 Autoset or S9 Autoset for Her (same machine, different color) or an Airsense Autoset or Airsense For Her. It's very easy for folks here to give you tips on initial setup as well as getting the data from Sleepyhead. After some improvement, you can then bring your data to your doctor. If apnea is your problem, the runs to the bathroom diminish fairly quickly.
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I don't think a sleep study is impossible for you. I think the constant getting up would be annoying, but nothing more than that.

I had to get up 2-3 times to use the restroom in one of my sleep studies. It was no problem at all. All of the wires connected to me all connected to a box thing that looked like a large TV remote. The guy unplugged that from a main cord, and helped me get out of bed so I didn't displace anything. I walked to the restroom, they had a holder on the wall for the box thingy while I did my business, and I went back to my room where the tech was waiting in order to get the box hooked back up to the main cord. No big deal. Annoying? - sure. Impossible? - not at all.
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At the same time, you already have an old CPAP... so obviously you have a need. It would be easy enough to just buy a CPAP out of pocket (as mentioned above), and get yourself on your merry way.
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What about a urinary catheter? Seems like an easy solution to the overactive bladder, assuming one must have an overnight study.
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That's not an area RT's usually handle. I guess they could hand out adult pampers. Thumbs-down-1
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Sure, but it is something that could be done if a body put their mind to it and had a cooperative physician. It could (probably) even be set up ahead of time... or the person taught to do it themselves.

Alternatively, a bedside urinal as is used in hospitals would eliminate the need to get up and mess with the wires. My husband had to use one of those the first couple of days he was hospitalized for heart failure. The OP is fortunate to be male.
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Get a foley catheter put in the really dont hurt.
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Thank you everyone for the additional information about approximate pressure settings, machines, and the physiology of sleep and overactive bladder.  The bladder info seems relevant as my frequency is increased at night, but I still have bladder issue during the day.  I'm hoping for some fixes soon.  Got my passport renewed a few months ago hoping to travel, but that's on hold for now.  I'm too tired and wouldn't make it through the security lines without needing to pee.
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