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Sleeping longer--how do I reduce humidity within my humidifier?
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Sleeping longer--how do I reduce humidity within my humidifier?
I'm sleeping longer. Over 8 hours regularly. AHI was 0.3 this morning. The reservoir was dry when I woke up.


My humidifier capacity is too low. I woke early, filled the humidifier and put on my cervical collar. (I had been mouth breathing.)

Can I reduce the humidity with my S9 so it uses less water? ResMed H5i on my S9 Elite
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#2
RE: Sleeping longer--how do I reduce humidity within my humidifier?
Confession. My humidifier chamber has deposits in it from mineral in the water. I need to clean it, or replace it. When the humidifier is dry the warm air from my cpap and humidifier stinks. (Should should I use distilled water? It's inconvenient and expensive.)
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RE: Sleeping longer--how do I reduce humidity within my humidifier?
Using tap water it's better to drain/ rinse / dry daily if you don't want a mineral deposit. The other option is, like I do, buy distilled water from  Walmart (cheapest place) for $1.00 / 4lts. I buy 3 or 4 bottles at a time & I'm good for a couple of months.
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RE: Sleeping longer--how do I reduce humidity within my humidifier?
The mineral deposits can be removed with vinegar. Just soak it for a while. Scrub with a cloth and/or old tooth brush ot cotton swab for corners and crevices. Then rinse. If it stinks, you may have a bacterial build up. Regular cleaning with mild detergent should prevent that. After the vinegar treatment it may be a good idea to give it a good rinse with drugstore hydrogen peroxide. That shouldn't usually be necessary if you clean regularly with mild detergent.  The bacteria are probably not pathogens so there's no need to replace the humidifier if you can get it clean.
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RE: Sleeping longer--how do I reduce humidity within my humidifier?
(01-31-2019, 11:43 AM)Melman Wrote: The mineral deposits can be removed with vinegar. Just soak it for a while. Scrub with a cloth and/or old tooth brush ot cotton swab for corners and crevices. Then rinse. If it stinks, you may have a bacterial build up. Regular cleaning with mild detergent should prevent that. After the vinegar treatment it may be a good idea to give it a good rinse with drugstore hydrogen peroxide. That shouldn't usually be necessary if you clean regularly with mild detergent.  The bacteria are probably not pathogens so there's no need to replace the humidifier if you can get it clean.

Thanks!
Wondering...Can I reduce the rate of humidification on my CPAP? 
I add water to the full mark, then sleep too long.  I'm not complaining. Sleep is good.


I added water last night at 5:00 am. Then I couldn't sleep...up at 6:30 am.
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RE: Sleeping longer--how do I reduce humidity within my humidifier?
(01-31-2019, 12:01 PM)DaveL Wrote: Wondering...Can I reduce the rate of humidification on my CPAP? 
I add water to the full mark, then sleep too long.  I'm not complaining. Sleep is good.


I added water last night at 5:00 am. Then I couldn't sleep...up at 6:30 am.

Yes, here's a Youtube showing how to change the humidity on your S0 it's at the 1:30 second mark. I wouldn't change it to much, go down a notch see how it lasts and your comfort level. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2LMJI1L...nue=90&


You can also consider an external humidifier in your bedroom during drier seasons.

I use distilled water. I prefer buying distilled over the inconvenience of cleaning mineral sediment off my tank.
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RE: Sleeping longer--how do I reduce humidity within my humidifier?
I started out using distilled water in the humidifier in my AutoSense 10. Got tired of having to buy it and keep enough on hand. 

About 45 days ago, I started using tap water. As has been mentioned already, if you empty the reservoir each and every morning, you will not have any mineral deposits.

I dump out any remaining water, then wipe it dry with a tissue, and let it sit out for a few hours to insure it's completely dry. 

Works like a charm............ Cool
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RE: Sleeping longer--how do I reduce humidity within my humidifier?
Thanks for the hints.

I've been filling the reservoir to the MAX mark nightly. I use tap water.

I regularly wake up in the morning with the humidifier reservoir empty. However, the humidifier is still cooking away..

So if there is any residue left in the reservoir it is baked in place. I'll clean the reservoir tonight before I fill it.
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RE: Sleeping longer--how do I reduce humidity within my humidifier?
I'm going to confess something to you that most here will criticize....I use Lime-A-Way to knock off the carbonate deposits on a humidifier chamber. It literally takes seconds and with a good rinse is as good as new. This is a stronger cleaner than most members use, and contains sulfanic acid, but I have found it effective, odorless, safe, and have not found any problems. https://www.whatsinproducts.com//brands/...ds/1/11830

For disinfection, hydrogen peroxide can't be beat. I use just enough to cover the bottom of the container and use a Q tip to ensure the all the cracks and crevices are cleaned. The hydrogen peroxide has a foaming action that helps mechanically clean surfaces and places you can't reach. I promise this works and will leave equipment fresh. Hydrogen peroxide in the tube is also very effective. Just enough to fill a small segment, then alternately lift one end and the other to spread it through the tube will ensure it is completely cleaned and disinfected. I recommend rinsing, but hydrogen peroxide degrades quickly to water and oxygen, so nothing harmful there.
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RE: Sleeping longer--how do I reduce humidity within my humidifier?
There is nothing wrong with using a commercial product that busts up lime and other deposits, SR.  Vinegar is cheap and effective, although you can get much better concentrations from a higher percentage of acetic acid, which is really all vinegar is. You could also use muriatic acid, ascorbic acid...really any acid that won't affect the plastic and seals, or your hands.  I am a fan of a product called CLR (for Calcium, Lime, and Rust), although since our local water is first class, I don't get deposits or scale. 

To readers looking in, is your local tap water drinkable?  Not too hard?  If it is nice and clear, eminently drinkable out of the tap, and doesn't have an odour other than chlorine/bromine, then it is going to be a cheap way to fill your humidifier.  No need for more costly distilled water.  As has been intimated by others, the trick is to not let the dregs stand long or get low, but mostly you're going to have problems if you just keep adding water without rinsing the vessel.  YOU MUST RINSE!  If not daily, then every second day.  It is in adding fresh water to the two or three tablespoons left over in the vessel each day that will eventually cause scale buildup.

Now, having said all that, our local water is so good that I fill my reservoir every third day and rinse at the time of filling.  Water stands in my unit three days at a time because my settings are so low. I haven't the slightest hint of any staining showing let alone scale.

One last suggestion: even if your local water isn't exactly the best, and even if it's somewhat hard and most local households have softeners, you can use either the untreated or the treated water without worry, provided you do rinse well most mornings, and don't simply top up the volume of water by adding more.  Rinsing is the key.  Eventually, you will still get some scale.  Lemon juice, vinegar, Scale Away, CLR...take your pick, they all work given enough time.  Go cheap!!!
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