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Question SleepyHead doesn't read from NEW SD Card
I have an old SD card that works fine; I can upload new data to SleepyHead from it.
The card is almost broken and I got a new card from the supplier.

My CPAP machine writes the files fine to the new card and I can upload new data to Resperonics website (mydreammapper.com). However, no new data is uploaded to SleepyHead.

To get new data, I need to instead put in my old SD card in the machine and then upload it to SleepyHead.

I ordered a 2nd new card, but it has the same problem.

Why doesn't the new cards work with SleepyHead? Do I somehow need to tell the software that I am using a different card?
I noticed that the properties.txt file has some small differences.

p.s. I tried to copy the data on the working SD card to a blank SD card, and then put it into the CPAP machine. However, that didn't work at all; I got a card error when it tried to write to the card (it is not write protected). Why is that?
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RE: SleepyHead doesn't read from NEW SD Card
Can you tell us the make, model #, size of the new SD card you bought? 2nd question, what are you using to read the card on your computer?



Using FlashAir W-03 SD card in machine. Access through wifi with FlashPAP or Sleep Master utilities.

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RE: SleepyHead doesn't read from NEW SD Card
(11-07-2015 07:39 AM)AlanE Wrote:  Can you tell us the make, model #, size of the new SD card you bought? 2nd question, what are you using to read the card on your computer?

1. I have 4 cards:
A. Original SD Card from Apria Healthcare: Phillips Resperonics Lexar; Reorder 1063859; 1.86 GB
B. New SD Card from Apria Healthcare: Phillips Resperonics Lexar; Reorder 1063859; 1.86 GB
C. Another SD New Card from Apria Healthcare: Phillips Resperonics Lexar; Reorder 1063859; 1.86 GB
D. Crucial SD Card; 1.86 GB (which gives the error in the CPAP machine)


2. I have an internal SD card reader in my desktop. I believe that it is connected to the USB (2.0) bus.

I did a new "experiment":
1. Delete the data on Card B
2. Copy the data from Card A (which is missing data from last night) to Card B
3. Put Card B in the CPAP machine to add last nights data.
4. Tried to upload last night's data to mydreammapper.com => Last night's data imported.
5. Tried to import last night's data to SleepyHead => Last night's data NOT updated.

6. Next I created a new profile in SleepyHead
7. Tried to import all the data to the new profile => Now all data is there in the new profile, including last nights data!


Apparently, SleepyHead is aware* that I am using a new physical SD card and refuses to import the data in the same profile; only the original SD card may be used!? Is this by design or a bug?


*) Does SleepyHead read the CID information? If so, how can it do this if the card is connected to the USB bus?

p.s. I tried to edit the post above to indicate which card is which, but editing was no longer allowed....
Also, I subscribe to this thread, but I am not receiving any notifications..?
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RE: SleepyHead doesn't read from NEW SD Card
(11-07-2015 06:07 PM)viking2 Wrote:  p.s. I tried to edit the post above to indicate which card is which, but editing was no longer allowed....
Also, I subscribe to this thread, but I am not receiving any notifications..?

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RE: SleepyHead doesn't read from NEW SD Card
I've never experienced the problem you have with sleepyhead. I've used a couple of SD cards including the FlashAir. It's possible Sleepyhead ignored the last days data due to a failed import. You could try purging that days data from SH, Data > Advanced > Purge Selected Day, and import it again. It sounds like your back in business now so something to keep in mind if it happens again.



Using FlashAir W-03 SD card in machine. Access through wifi with FlashPAP or Sleep Master utilities.

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RE: SleepyHead doesn't read from NEW SD Card
(11-07-2015 07:24 PM)AlanE Wrote:  I've never experienced the problem you have with sleepyhead. I've used a couple of SD cards including the FlashAir. It's possible Sleepyhead ignored the last days data due to a failed import. You could try purging that days data from SH, Data > Advanced > Purge Selected Day, and import it again. It sounds like your back in business now so something to keep in mind if it happens again.
Unfortunately, I am definitely not back in business Sad.
I need to import new data from the new card into the original profile (not the new profile) as I have a lot of notes in the old profile.

Currently, I cannot import any new data from the new card; only if I use the old card that is slowly falling apart.

(In the "experiment" above I had imported data from the old card up until last night. Previously I have tried to import several days of data from the new card into the original profile but nothing is ever imported)

I tried your suggestion; pointing on Nov 6 (Details show "Nothing's here") and Data > Advanced > Purge Selected Day. I then tried to import Nov 6th again from the new card again, but nothing is imported. (I can only get the new data, Nov 6, in a new profile)
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RE: SleepyHead doesn't read from NEW SD Card
Now that you have another day's data on the card, have you tried importing it into your old profile?

Sleepyhead doesn't care that you have a new SD card. SH copies data off your SD card and stores the data on your hard drive. If the folder on the hard drive for Nov 6 exists with corrupt data or even no data, it could be ignored.

If you are not using Windows, the following will need to be adjusted.

The folder that stores your SH data is by default C:\Users\<yourname>\Documents\SleepyHeadData-Testing

In this folder is a Profiles folder. Click into your Profiles folder.
This will contain both your old profile and your new profile.

I'll use OldProfile, NewProfile for this scenario.

Click into your OldProfile folder.
There you will see another folder for your CPAP machine. On mine it is ResMed_xxxxxx. x is usually the serial number.
Click into your machine name folder.
Click into your Events folder.
Find the folder that was written Nov 6th. Sorting the Date Modified column helps.
Move this folder out of Events. (Move it to Desktop for now)

Open SleepyHead
Navigate to Nov 6th.
It will probably show a message on the graphs: "Plots Disabled".
Do the Purge for the currently selected day again.
Shift-F2 to Import your data again. or File > Import Data.

If that still doesn't work, we can try something else.

Assuming NewProfile has all the previous data in it sans your Notes. Lets copy your notes from OldProfile to NewProfile and just use NewProfile from that point on.

In SH, load your NewProfile.
Make a note on any day. Could be anything like "Hello World". You need to enter something to create a Journal. It won't matter since it will be deleted.
Shut down Sleepyhead so all the data gets written.

Navigate to your SleepyHead Profiles folder again.
Click into your OldProfile folder.
Find the Journal_xxxxxxx folder and click into that.
Copy the Summaries.xml.gz file and the Summaries folder into your NewProfile\Journal_xxxxxx folder over-writing everything in it. Only the last note you entered would be in the NewProfile and we don't care about that.

Open SH again and load your NewProfile. Flip back to a day you entered a note on and see if your notes are there.



Using FlashAir W-03 SD card in machine. Access through wifi with FlashPAP or Sleep Master utilities.

I wanted to learn Binary so I enrolled in Binary 101. I seemed to have missed the first four courses. Big Grinnie
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RE: SleepyHead doesn't read from NEW SD Card
Can you tell me what the model number for this is:

D. Crucial SD Card; 1.86 GB (which gives the error in the CPAP machine)

There are different types of SD cards and different speed Class or UHS classes if it is a UHS design. It's also possible the Crucial card is bad.



Using FlashAir W-03 SD card in machine. Access through wifi with FlashPAP or Sleep Master utilities.

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