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SoClean CPAP Cleaner and Sanitizer
#1
Hello All,
Two months on my machine and all is going well. Readings are consistently below 1 episode per hour.

Question: does anyone have knowledge or experience with SoClean 2 CPAP Cleaner and Sanitizer Machine? Wonder if it is worth purchasing? What stops me is their last caution that routine washing of tube, mask, etc is still recommended. Can a ResMed P10 Nasal Pillow head gear go in the machine?
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#2
Do a search on Apnea Board for SoClean. I would post links to the threads but there are too many of them.

It's been debated endlessly and without a definitive conclusion.

My conclusion, personally, is that it makes you $300 poorer.
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#3
To be frankly honest? A rather large portion of us, as time goes by, become more and more lax about the cleaning of our gear (mask, tubing, water tub, machine).

Pop quiz? If your toothbrush is older than 30 days, why would you buy this? If you drink soda out of the can without washing the can yourself first, why would you spend the $$ on this?

After bout 15 years on CPAP, while my water chamber is 'rinsed' nightly, it is not 'cleaned' but every 2-3 months. While I use mask 'wipes' every week or so, I've not 'washed' my mask in months. I am on my third hose in all these years.

Everyone of us is different, and I would politely suggest a better cleaning routine than *I* use, but $300 bucks for a cleaning 'system' would buy a lot of cleaning products. Vinegar is one of my favorites-FYI, followed by a cheap bottle of 'Joy' dish soap. (I like and use Dawn, but read somewhere it was too harsh on today's masks?)
*I* am not a DOCTOR or any type of Health Care Professional. My thoughts/suggestions/ideas are strictly only my opinions.

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#4
Once again, this does NOT clean anything as in removing dirt from the equipment. It can't disintegrate dirt.

It may kill germs, but I'm skeptical about how well that really works.
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(07-03-2014, 11:37 AM)Peter_C Wrote: Vinegar is one of my favorites-FYI, followed by a cheap bottle of 'Joy' dish soap. (I like and use Dawn, but read somewhere it was too harsh on today's masks?)

I had not heard that about Dawn and that is all I have been using for several years. Obviously I do not have the length of experience that Peter_C has but I have seen nothing untoward from using Dawn.

I have seen where others on the forum use Dawn too. I think one of them might have been Paula....OOPS I forgot she uses her hammer.
Too-funny

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PaytonA
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As I said, I like and use Dawn - I read 'somewhere' (for my life I can't remember where) that it was too harsh for continued use. I also way back used to use plain yellow Dial bar soap, but then they said the anti -bac (?) whatever would break-down mask seals...shrug

So, now I use simple, cheap, plain "Joy" dish soap. But *I* think Dawn works fine - but as I have spent so much trying and buying masks - I do want them to live a long while...
*I* am not a DOCTOR or any type of Health Care Professional. My thoughts/suggestions/ideas are strictly only my opinions.

"Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you. Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your Soul, the other for your Freedom."
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#7
I look for liquid hand soap that is labeled "antibacterial" and has no indication anywhere that it has any effect on moisturizing your hands. I don't want any moisturizer because it will leave a residue.

Your gear just needs to be clean, it doesn't need to be SoClean. Too-funny
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#8
All my masks have a warning about cleaning them with 'antibacterial' soap - they say *not* to use that anymore...
*I* am not a DOCTOR or any type of Health Care Professional. My thoughts/suggestions/ideas are strictly only my opinions.

"Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you. Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your Soul, the other for your Freedom."
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(07-03-2014, 06:18 PM)Peter_C Wrote: All my masks have a warning about cleaning them with 'antibacterial' soap - they say *not* to use that anymore...

That's weird. Two and a half years ago when the DME came to my house to set up my first machine that's what he told me to use.

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#10
Back to the SoClean - it doesn't "clean", it sanitizes (allegedly) by using high doses of ozone. But first, you have to clean it before you put it in.

It is like the "dishwashers" they have at Waffle House. The staff wash the dishes first, stack them into trays much like our dishwashers at home, then put them into this drum like thing that then uses very hot water to "sterilize" the dishes. If egg goo is still on the plate, it is still there when it comes out the other side.

IF you are one of those who is really really against germs, sure, go ahead. Whatever you need to do to be comfortable.

My opinion? Waste of money. I'd rather save that cash and get another set of gear. Or more at that price!

As for the anti-bacterial, it should not be one that contains alcohol. I don't think it is necessary as simple soap is enough to kill pert near anything we'd get on our masks. And no, it wasn't me that uses Dawn. Can't stand the stuff. I use some sort of hand soap we get at Lowe's. Smells like watermelon! Every other week I use a vinegar solution.
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