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Little deep sleep based on sleep cycle
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Little deep sleep based on sleep cycle
I have been posting a lot but my sleep and anxiety issues have really gotten poor.

I noticed in the last two weeks, I am waking up 4-5 times a night.  

LOoking at my times and an app called Sleep cycle, 

I keep jumping out of Deep sleep very quickly.  Sometimes I get very little deep sleep.

Is this caused by sleep apnea, restless legs, long term anti-depressant usage?

I know this is not a great app, but I believe that deep sleep is when you move the least, and when that appears to happen , 

I wake up.

why?
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RE: Little deep sleep based on sleep cycle
You sound like me. I found my solution, it may or may not be the same for you. CPAP really has two issues: 1. treat the apneas and 2. find a way for the treatment to be comfortable enough for you to sleep well. Sounds like you are working on the second one of trying to get comfortable.

Most people take all kinds of time finding comfortable beds, pillows, blankets ….. You now have something strapped to your face blowing air up your nose. You did not complain about being uncomfortable so I would guess that its something just uncomfortable enough to block deep sleep.

I had so change to a BiLevel machine (AirCurve 10) to get the settings I needed. My Doctor gave up and turned my treatment over to me (and this forum ). I breathe slowly when I sleep and the standard machine was cutting off my breath. I had to adjust Ti max to longer, Trigger to very sensitive, and cycle to less sensitive and then I finally was able to sleep well. The timing of the cycle was just enough off from my baseline that it was disturbing. This could be tested for in a sleep lab, but with so few people needing it (that we know of anyway) that they just don't make those adjustments during testing. I have no idea how many of the people that fail at using CPAP, fail because of this.

If this is they type of adjustment you need you will be the third (including myself) person I know of that needed it.
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RE: Little deep sleep based on sleep cycle
(07-22-2018, 03:46 PM)PoolQ Wrote: This could be tested for in a sleep lab, but with so few people needing it (that we know of anyway) that they just don't make those adjustments during testing.

Would you please explain more about how you solved this issue?

I have very low AHI though I feel exhausted in the morning and my smart watch shows very little deep sleep (0-20 minutes only)!

I am using Auto CPAP (Min 10.0 Max 20.0) with A-Flex 3. My mask is a nasal pillow where there is no leak and does not blow air on the face (unless it does while I am sleeping and I am unaware of it).

I have a sleep study coming in a few days and would like to take the advantage of what you mentioned: "This could be tested for in a sleep lab, but with so few people needing it (that we know of anyway) that they just don't make those adjustments during testing". Would you please advise on what shall I ask the sleep technician for so they can fine-tune my machine for comfortable sleep?
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RE: Little deep sleep based on sleep cycle
xaid,

This thread is from 2018 and the user PoolQ has not been online since last year so don't expect a response.
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