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Teeth Grinding and Sleep Apnea
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Teeth Grinding and Sleep Apnea
My Dentist is insistent that my recent jaw/tooth pain is from not wearing the nightguard that was made for me just before I found out I had OSA.  I am a big grinder and I know I am still doing it because I have actually woken up hearing me scrape my teeth together.  I am having the worst time trying to keep the guard in my mouth even during the day.  I have a terrible gag reflex and I find even after a few minutes my jaw is incredibly sore.

I'm wondering if I should even bother trying to get used to it?  Is anyone else sleeping with a nightguard while using a cpap?  I'm scared it's just going to cause more pain and just the thought of trying to sleep is making me feel even more anxious.
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#2
RE: Teeth Grinding and Sleep Apnea
I use a nightguard, on the upper teeth, and have no pain or other problem at all. I think my teeth grinding was relatively modest.
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RE: Teeth Grinding and Sleep Apnea
(09-02-2021, 11:28 PM)GuyScharf Wrote: I use a nightguard, on the upper teeth, and have no pain or other problem at all. I think my teeth grinding was relatively modest.

Mine is upper teeth as well, I will practice wearing it and see if it makes any difference to my AHI or flow limits.  

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RE: Teeth Grinding and Sleep Apnea
I use a nightguard and have no real problem with it when using CPAP. It took a little bit of time and I would wear the nightguard hours before going to sleep and putting on my CPAP gear on.
My only concern with it is when I want to use the tongue on the roof of the mouth, to help in sealing for mouth leaks, the edge of the mouthguard gets in the way to the back of the teeth. However, I'm also using tape to stop (reduce) mouth leaks.
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#5
RE: Teeth Grinding and Sleep Apnea
I've worn a nightguard while using my CPAP. I don't know why you find yours so uncomfortable. It seems perhaps it's not fitting you correctly.

After I used my CPAP machine for a few months I find I rarely need my nightguard.
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RE: Teeth Grinding and Sleep Apnea
I have worn a nightguard for decades. Since I started XPAP I wear a top and bottom both. I only wear them at night when asleep. I haven't ever heard of wearing one during the day. Do you grind during the day?

I didn't need to get used to mine, ever or for either one. There shouldn't be any pain.

Maybe talk to your dentist, see if the fit needs adjustment. What are the downsides of not wearing the nightguard? Or just wearing when you are sleeping?
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RE: Teeth Grinding and Sleep Apnea
(09-03-2021, 10:52 AM)Cpapian Wrote: I have worn a nightguard for decades.  Since I started XPAP  I wear a top and bottom both.  I only wear them at night when asleep.   I haven't ever heard of wearing one during the day.  Do you grind during the day?

I didn't need to get used to mine, ever or for either one.  There shouldn't be any pain.

Maybe talk to your dentist,  see if the fit needs adjustment.   What are the downsides of not wearing the nightguard?   Or just wearing when you are sleeping?

I was just wearing it during the day to get used to it in my mouth.  I can't stop gagging from it.  I see the Dentist again in a couple of weeks so will let him know.  I'm only supposed to wear it while asleep but I don't see how that is going to happen.

(09-03-2021, 09:55 AM)Sleepster Wrote: I've worn a nightguard while using my CPAP. I don't know why you find yours so uncomfortable. It seems perhaps it's not fitting you correctly.

After I used my CPAP machine for a few months I find I rarely need my nightguard.

My jaw hurts even more after having it in my mouth, so maybe it's just need adjusting.

(09-03-2021, 09:24 AM)nightgagger Wrote: I use a nightguard and have no real problem with it when using CPAP.  It took a little bit of time and I would wear the nightguard hours before going to sleep and putting on my CPAP gear on.  
My only concern with it is when I want to use the tongue on the roof of the mouth, to help in sealing for mouth leaks, the edge of the mouthguard gets in the way to the back of the teeth.  However, I'm also using tape to stop (reduce) mouth leaks.

I found the same thing, I can't close my mouth properly and there is a big gap so air will leak out.
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RE: Teeth Grinding and Sleep Apnea
Daytime mouth guards are for people that unconsciously grind or clinch their teeth during the day.

I started using a mouth guard when I first found out I was grinding away surface of my teeth. There is bigger issue that can develop, which is tmj or craniofacial issues from clinching. That's the most important reason for me to wear a mouth guard, so that my jaws can last longer. Splints for tmj is much more complex to get right. Because if the splint is not right for the person, problems can develop.
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RE: Teeth Grinding and Sleep Apnea
I have a severe TMJ disorder, and have had TMJ for over 35 years. I wear a dental appliance, similar to a nightguard, to stabilize my bite and my jaw joints. I wear it 24/7, including for eating. It is only out of my mouth to brush it and my teeth.

There is a period of getting used to a dental appliance. However, you should NOT be having problems with a gag reflex or severe pain when wearing it. 

The gag reflex means that the appliance is too big, it goes too far back on the back teeth, or that it is covering too much of the roof of your mouth (again, going too far back). 

The pain means that the appliance is not adjusted correctly for your bite. Did the dentist just hand it to you and say "Here it is. Wear it"? Or did he place it in your mouth, and then check and adjust your bite using two-sided paper that leaves marks on the appliance, so he can see how your teeth hit the appliance? If your dentist did not/does not adjust your appliance, fire him immediately and get a new dentist with more training and experience!! Even if he did adjust it, it is obviously not right and you need to insist that he works with you to make it right.

I started CPAP treatment about 9 months ago. I have found that since I can now breathe at night, I am grinding and clenching my teeth at night much less. My dentist can tell the difference when I go in for adjustments, because I don't have grinding marks on my appliance! I hope the same happens for you. 

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RE: Teeth Grinding and Sleep Apnea
I am pretty new to CPAP, and I also wear a mouthguard at night.  I still clench some at night and have jaw pain in the mornings (sometimes) but I've never had gagging with my mouthguard.  Hopefully after being on CPAP for a while, the grinding will stop.
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