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The Hybrid mask and removing the nasal pillows with head cold
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RE: The Hybrid mask and removing the nasal pillows with head cold
Paula, it really won't require a (permanent) modification of the mask.

The pillows of the hybrid are made to pop out -- to allow switching the sizes.

Merely taping over the ports where the pillows are inserted would be very easy to accomplish (from the inside).

Using the mask with an ALMOST stopped up nose was very tricky for me -- my nose wouldn't allow enough air but allowed just enough to make it seem possible and keep me from breathing easily through my mouth.

It woke me many times during the night to allow consciously switching my breathing from mouth to nose and the whistling through my nose was so loud that alone was keeping me awake.

I tried quite a few things (quick ideas, not getting up and fixing the mask as described) trying to BLOCK my nose FULLY to just allow (or even force) breathing through the mouth alone.

There was a similar effect (but worse) with the F & P Oracle Oral mask. This was worse because the Oracle doesn't cover or block the nose so being able to breath through the nose "a little" was very difficult to deal with.

(And the stupid nose plugs included with the Oracle were entirely insufficient and unworkable for me -- also reported by a lot of other people.)

I strongly suspect the Hybrid with the pillow ports closed will make a MUCH better "oral only" mask than the Oracle does, and it will always have the flexibility to put the nasal pillows back on and use it that way, as a Pillow/Oral mask.

Sweet Dreams,

HerbM
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10-05-2014 04:08 AM
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Post: #12
RE: The Hybrid mask and removing the nasal pillows with head cold
Modification of a mask in that manner is not advised. For one, the fit will change. For two, the air flow will change. For three, there's the smell of tape all night. I'm sure there's more points but that's all I'm listing.

The Oracle is designed as a mouth only mask. This other mask was not. That's a big difference.

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10-05-2014 12:10 PM
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Other Comments: Backup Mask: Innomed Hybrid FFM -- Oral+Nasal Pillows

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Location: Austin, TX

Post: #13
RE: The Hybrid mask and removing the nasal pillows with head cold
On the Innomed Hybrid there would be no change in fit. The pillows aren't integral to how the mask fits.

As to the smell of tape, that is about finding the correct tape and remember that with the nasal pillows blanked off, and presumably a stopped up nose, there isn't likely to be much in the way of smell available.

Sweet Dreams,

HerbM
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10-05-2014 12:28 PM
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