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(12-16-2012 09:31 PM)Shastzi Wrote:  Clorox brand, "Green Works" soap for hand washing dishes.
Makes a great de-greaser and looks like it has almost no bad things in it.
smells nice too.

No phosphates.

Smile
As I stated earlier, I am now using the original Dawn dish washing liquid and the sore on my nose has finally healed. I can't believe that after all this time, simply changing the soap took care of my problem. I should have joined the forum years ago.Thanks
12-19-2012 09:23 PM
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I would suggest, however, that you try to dilute it a lot. Dawn is known for its oil breaking powers (they use it on waterfowl after an oil spill). I wonder what it would do to a silicone mask part over time.

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Post: #13
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(12-19-2012 09:57 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  I would suggest, however, that you try to dilute it a lot. Dawn is known for its oil breaking powers (they use it on waterfowl after an oil spill). I wonder what it would do to a silicone mask part over time.

Hey Paula,

I've been using Dawn to clean my mask cushion for quite a while with no ill effects, I also use it to wash my face every night for just the reason you cited. I've been using it to clean my hands after working on a car for many more years, it's almost as good as hand cleaner for removing grease.

Just my .02

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12-19-2012 11:07 PM
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(12-19-2012 11:07 PM)TheWerkz Wrote:  Just my .02

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12-19-2012 11:19 PM
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(12-19-2012 11:19 PM)zonk Wrote:  
(12-19-2012 11:07 PM)TheWerkz Wrote:  Just my .02

Ren
.02 USD = 7.23800 ZWD (Zimbabwean Dollar) Rolling laugh

Holy cow, I'm RICH! Too-funny
12-19-2012 11:24 PM
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(12-15-2012 10:00 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  Where is the nose sore, at the bridge? A mask should not be overly tightened as it can actually create more leaks in addition to tenderness. That is what it sounds like you are doing. Over tightening is very easy to do and it is difficult to find that line between tight enough to keep it on and so dang tight your nose loses circulation.

There are these pads to help with tender spots, though. Pad a cheek? Gecko? Someone else will know the name.

When is the last time you went mask shopping? They're coming out with better and better masks each year or so. It might be a good idea to sit down with your local supplier and discuss the issue and see what other masks are out there. I know you said you've tried, but keep trying.


Hi hunningsedaniel, welcome to the forum!

I like that the ResMed Mirage Quattro full face mask gives me a great dial for fine adjustment for how much pressure is on the bridge of my nose. I find I need to adjust for minimal pressure on the bridge of my nose, which would allow bothersome leaks around the eyes if I did not use the Gecko soft gel nose protector.

I highly recommend the ResMed Gecko nasal pad, which is a super protector for the bridge of the nose and seals leaks around the eyes and nose, allowing leak-free fit without the mask being adjusted so tight that mask hurts bridge of nose.

Some insurances cover two nasal pads monthly, but I can get 6 months use out of one Gecko. It is a soft gel pad which is easy to put into whatever shape I need. Can be washed with mild soap (or detergent, I suppose). To keep it clean when not in use, I save the clear plastic container it comes in and put it back in there each morning after washing and rinsing well.

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12-24-2012 01:56 PM
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(12-24-2012 01:56 PM)vsheline Wrote:  
(12-15-2012 10:00 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  Where is the nose sore, at the bridge? A mask should not be overly tightened as it can actually create more leaks in addition to tenderness. That is what it sounds like you are doing. Over tightening is very easy to do and it is difficult to find that line between tight enough to keep it on and so dang tight your nose loses circulation.

There are these pads to help with tender spots, though. Pad a cheek? Gecko? Someone else will know the name.

When is the last time you went mask shopping? They're coming out with better and better masks each year or so. It might be a good idea to sit down with your local supplier and discuss the issue and see what other masks are out there. I know you said you've tried, but keep trying.


Hi hunningsedaniel, welcome to the forum!

I like that the ResMed Mirage Quattro full face mask gives me a great dial for fine adjustment for how much pressure is on the bridge of my nose. I find I need to adjust for minimal pressure on the bridge of my nose, which would allow bothersome leaks around the eyes if I did not use the Gecko soft gel nose protector.

I highly recommend the ResMed Gecko nasal pad, which is a super protector for the bridge of the nose and seals leaks around the eyes and nose, allowing leak-free fit without the mask being adjusted so tight that mask hurts bridge of nose.

Some insurances cover two nasal pads monthly, but I can get 6 months use out of one Gecko. It is a soft gel pad which is easy to stretch into whatever shape I need. Can be washed with mild soap (or detergent, I suppose). To keep it clean when not in use, I save the clear plastic container it comes in and put it back in there each morning after washing and rinsing well.

Take care.
--- Vaughn
Hi Vaughn. Thank you for the info. I am going to try the Gecko after the first of the year. I don't know if medicare will cover it but it shouldn't be that expensive anyway. I use the Fisher & Pakal flexi-fit 432 because it goes under the chin and helps keep my mouth closed. I have always had a problem with a very sore nose or leaks blowing air straight into my eyes. Changing the soap I use to clean my mask helped tremendously. But I still have a leak problem around the eyes. The Gecko will be my next experiment. Merry Christmas.
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Post: #18
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Leaks there is why I can only use nasal pillows. I tried so many nasal masks but none of them worked.

I wonder if a sleep/eye mask would help protect your eyes? The air wouldn't be hitting them.

Have you tried any of the hybrid masks? I know you said this mask helps keep your mouth closed so if you went hybrid, you'd have to use a chin strap.

Never ending fun, isn't it?

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I think you may be over tightening the mask. It has to be able to inflate and float on the bridge.
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