Hello Guest, Welcome to Apnea Board !
As a guest, you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use.
To post a message, you must create a free account using a valid email address.

or Create an Account


New Posts   Today's Posts

Vauto, PLM, FL & Mixed Apnea
RE: Vauto, PLM, FL & Mixed Apnea
(12-07-2019, 02:40 PM)bonjour Wrote: FYI I recently read a medical article that said CO2 manipulation (EERS) will treat People Primary Central Apnea

I'll actually believe it when I see it work, BUT it is now something to consider exploring.
Fred Bonjour - Project Manager and Lead Tester for OSCAR - Open Source CPAP Analysis Reporter 
OSCAR

Download OSCAR
New to Apnea? Helpful tips to ensure success
Soft Cervical Collar
Mask Primer
Dealing with a DME
Organize Charts
Attaching Charts

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
Post Reply Post Reply



Donate to Apnea Board  
RE: Vauto, PLM, FL & Mixed Apnea
hi, Sheepless.

Apologies on delay for return.

Before any further opinion, I have decided to review your entire case, in particular, your past outcomes with ASV. Maybe tomorrow.

all the best
Post Reply Post Reply
RE: Vauto, PLM, FL & Mixed Apnea
...from full night, nov 22th (your night with no major session interruption), could you please take some 5 10min-windows (curve template above), from prior minutes /involving arousal/awakenings strectchesn(peaks on FR)?

...from what you interpret as PB and quasi-CSR , the two screens already posted on nov 22th, would it be fine?

thanks
Post Reply Post Reply
RE: Vauto, PLM, FL & Mixed Apnea
Sheepless, Fred,

...meanwhile I am attaching, for all of us make points, some comparisons on scales, periodicity, and duration of events; from sheepless and two PSG-cases from these two literature.

... I might be still wrong, however my point I have already made it many times: Sheepless events of PB and CSR are misleading ones, masked by PLMS.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nur...transducer

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...9215526159

all the best


Attached Files
.pdf   Comparison_PB and CSR _cases lit_pdf.pdf (Size: 642.16 KB / Downloads: 11)
Post Reply Post Reply



Donate to Apnea Board  
RE: Vauto, PLM, FL & Mixed Apnea
.... Sheepless, one experiment: try to consciously replicate those respiration patterns of "waxing-vaning" of what you interpret as PB, CSR.. Would be possible?

Atb
Post Reply Post Reply
RE: Vauto, PLM, FL & Mixed Apnea
Sorry..
.. Sheepless, one experiment: try to consciously replicate those respiration patterns of "waxing-vaning" of what you interpret as PB, CSR.. Would be possible, logic, without tweaking?

Atb
Post Reply Post Reply
RE: Vauto, PLM, FL & Mixed Apnea
..Sheepless,
take a look at this paper to have an idea would affect the heart beats, while tweaking for some  15 seconds of your PLMS

atb

https://watermark.silverchair.com/290419...YPC7Zq7noo
Post Reply Post Reply



Donate to Apnea Board  
RE: Vauto, PLM, FL & Mixed Apnea
..Sheepless, one last observation for while: What I am try to do right above is provide you with some analyses and literature, trying to put ourselves at same page on your diagnostic. If this would be possible, it would facilitate a great deal on follow up of your tretament, concerning machines and settings. No correct diagnose, no solution, I think.

atb
Post Reply Post Reply
RE: Vauto, PLM, FL & Mixed Apnea
the watermark silverchair link says timed out.

I returned to the vauto last night.  I wasn't operating the asv at optimal settings so not surprising I wasn't feeling great; just one night back on vauto but feeling much better today after a 7 hour session with no mask offs.  I think the asv algorithms may be better for me but the plm / flow limitation driven pressure support must be causing arousal issues even if I'm not aware of it.  I'm inclined to try it again (and apap too) if/as/when I can find a doc that'll work with me on stopping the plm because like you perhaps mper, I continue to lean toward concluding plm is the the root of most of my remaining issues.  I'm changing insurers in January so hoping I can get more focused help on this.   

I'll post some more screenshots from Nov 22 in a while.


Attached Files Thumbnail(s)
   
Post Reply Post Reply
RE: Vauto, PLM, FL & Mixed Apnea
Hope you close in on success ASAP sheepless. Your saga is closing in on Gone With The Wind or War And Peace in size. I really do hope you get an answer to your sleep disruptions. Keep at it my NW friend.
Dave

I'm not a doctor in real or fictional life. My posts include opinions based upon user experience and researched info regarding CPAP therapy and should not be considered medically professional directions or advice.


OSCAR Chart Organization
Mask Primer
Dealing With DME
Post Reply Post Reply



Donate to Apnea Board  


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  AirCurve 10 VAUTO vs MY Machine 3rdMarDiv 4 96 Yesterday, 06:58 PM
Last Post: Sleeprider
  My father passed away and I don't want to so I am using BiLevel Aircurve 10 VAuto RLMMG 40 1,061 01-24-2020, 05:38 PM
Last Post: RLMMG
  Can Clear Airway Apnea not be Central Apnea? tomko44 18 10,450 01-21-2020, 05:05 PM
Last Post: sleepyp
  Learning more about idiopathic central apnea (or mixed OA/CA)? jennykat 5 172 01-16-2020, 02:55 AM
Last Post: jaswilliams
  How to find Central Apnea events in OSCAR? [Treatment of central apnea] GaspForAir 38 885 12-31-2019, 10:10 PM
Last Post: DeepBreathing
  AB Filter setting on Aircurve 10 VAuto RLMMG 2 157 12-24-2019, 09:44 AM
Last Post: Melman
  If the Vauto doesn't help I give up on CPAP SorryIamNormal 57 1,431 12-21-2019, 05:43 PM
Last Post: Osiris357


New Posts   Today's Posts






About Apnea Board

Apnea Board is an educational web site designed to empower Sleep Apnea patients.