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Want to make sure I understand why data capable is desired.
I still don't have the results from my sleep study, I assume the results will reach my doctor early this week. And might be another week before I get set up with anything, especially considering the holiday this week in the US.

But in case I have sell my doctor on why I want the things recommended on this board, I want to make sure I understand why it's recommended. I understand why auto is desired. And I believe data capable is because with all that extra data, I can use something like the sleepyhead software and make my own adjustments if necessary, instead of potentially having to go back to my doctor often just to say "I don't think this is working well for me, I don't know why" as well as better data for the doctor to see how well, or not well, the treatment is working.

I have seen the wiki with the list of preferred machines. The impression I got from my visit previous to the sleep study, was that if I needed a machine I would come back to see the doctor and they would give me a machine. The exact words used were "We will get you back in and set up with something" So I don't know if that means I'll have a rental situation, or where a DME might come into play, if she meant I'd be given a script to fill with a DME or whatever. Mysteries for the future to solve.
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RE: Want to make sure I understand why data capable is desired.
Data capable is desired so you can verify better whether your treatment is working well or not.

Whether you want to avoid going to your doctor or not is separate.
11-22-2015 06:09 PM
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RE: Want to make sure I understand why data capable is desired.
(11-22-2015 06:01 PM)SephixT Wrote:  And I believe data capable is because with all that extra data, I can use something like the sleepyhead software and make my own adjustments if necessary, instead of potentially having to go back to my doctor often just to say "I don't think this is working well for me, I don't know why" as well as better data for the doctor to see how well, or not well, the treatment is working.

It makes no difference if it's the doctor or you who's looking. Either the data is there or it isn't. In that sense there's no such thing as "better" data.

If the doctor doesn't want the data, then he's a doctor who's not looking out for your best interests. If you don't want the data then that's all that matters. Fly blind!

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RE: Want to make sure I understand why data capable is desired.
Even if you choose to never tweak a setting, looking at the detailed data will give you insight into what's happening.
The purpose is patient empowerment. Many people walk in and take whatever machine is offered to them.

You never have more power over machine selection than before you accept a machine.

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RE: Want to make sure I understand why data capable is desired.
First of all, without data, there is no diagnoses for OSA
If you need data for the diagnoses, then you also need data for on-going evaluation of the treatment
Just like CT scan or MRI, without them, the doctor cannot make the right diagnoses or prescribe the right treatment

Bricks should be outlawed and hefty fines for anyone selling bricks, unless used in building constructions or perhaps door stoppers Smile
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RE: Want to make sure I understand why data capable is desired.
I can see that now... a building bricked up with non data producing CPAPs.
11-22-2015 07:15 PM
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RE: Want to make sure I understand why data capable is desired.
I'm not sure all the docs know what kinds of machines are out there being trialled and perhaps sold. When I went in after my first month of CPAP the sleep doc wanted to see the data and seemed surprised that I had a machine that did not provide it.

But I definitely agree with zonk's logic of ongoing data analysis.

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RE: Want to make sure I understand why data capable is desired.
Most sleep docs know one thing. What pressure a sleep study says you need and what type of apnea you have.
If you check the settings they will set an auto at pretty much come from a little hand book from the machines maker.
You can find them online.
You need data so once you understand SA you can optimize your treatment.
You are really the only one that cares. As long as you are compliant and the cash is flowing, the DME nor the Doc give a rip.
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RE: Want to make sure I understand why data capable is desired.
(11-22-2015 08:35 PM)Ghost1958 Wrote:  You are really the only one that cares. As long as you are compliant and the cash is flowing, the DME nor the Doc give a rip.

Well, I think that's perhaps a bit unfair. What we can say for sure is that no matter how much the Dr. cares about you, you almost certainly care more about yourself. And you have much more time available to educate yourself on your particular therapy situation than the doctor with many patients ever does.

After a couple of months of looking at your data every day you might well know more about what your particular data means than any doctor will.

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RE: Want to make sure I understand why data capable is desired.
Also there is not much price difference between, bricks, fixed data capable machines and APAPs
You could get S9 AutoSet or PRS1 Auto (both top notch APAP machines) for less than the price of the newer AirSense 10 CPAP or DreamStation CPAP (both are bricks)
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