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Post: #41
RE: Weight Gain From Water Retention
your pressure settings are 4 to 8. The lower end pressure is 4. 4 is too low for most people, and is usually uncomfortable, and expiratory relief doesn't do anything at that low of a setting. Signs that 4 is too low of a number on the low end would be a feeling that you are fighting to breathe in until it goes up.

With respect to water retention, we are trying to lower the pressure during exhale. At your low pressures, a bipap wont get you anything (I believe) since at your max pressure of 8, expiration pressure will be 5

I think Archangle wants to look at the effectiveness of the overall therapy. Would be interesting to see how long you stay at 4, and whether the machine is detecting any events or near events. It is possible that with effective therapy the conditions causing water retention will sort out without any other intervention.

My pressures are a good deal higher than yours - with a median of 11 to 12 - it is possible that your water retention issues are different than mine Smile

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Tongue Suck Technique for prevention of mouth breathing:
  • Place your tongue behind your front teeth on the roof of your mouth
  • let your tongue fill the space between the upper molars
  • gently suck to form a light vacuum
Practising during the day can help you to keep it at night

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09-11-2015 02:36 PM
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Post: #42
RE: Weight Gain From Water Retention
[quote='DariaVader' pid='130531' dateline='1442000173']
your pressure settings are 4 to 8. The lower end pressure is 4. I think Archangle wants to look at the effectiveness of the overall therapy. Would be interesting to see how long you stay at 4, and whether the machine is detecting any events or near events. It is possible that with effective therapy the conditions causing water retention will sort out without any other intervention.


Ok got that...
I am ready to post my data for you experts to see but I just wanted to be sure that there wasn't any hidden private information in the SD card.
I'm game for tweaking the machine if it helps out in the long run. There are definite limitations with regards to doctors and getting them to weigh in on some issues. Therefore, I really do appreciate this helpful forum.

regards...LOUIS
09-11-2015 02:59 PM
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Post: #43
RE: Weight Gain From Water Retention
the machine doesn't even know when you are sleeping and when you are awake... no idea whatsoever if you have been bad or good Wink

It is going to show the breathing data for the time periods you were wearing it. Not your name, address, phone number, education, occupation, speeding tickets or convictions.

(sorry - had to go there)

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Tongue Suck Technique for prevention of mouth breathing:
  • Place your tongue behind your front teeth on the roof of your mouth
  • let your tongue fill the space between the upper molars
  • gently suck to form a light vacuum
Practising during the day can help you to keep it at night

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09-11-2015 03:03 PM
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Louis R. Offline

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Post: #44
RE: Weight Gain From Water Retention
(09-11-2015 03:03 PM)DariaVader Wrote:  the machine doesn't even know when you are sleeping and when you are awake... no idea whatsoever if you have been bad or good Wink

It is going to show the breathing data for the time periods you were wearing it. Not your name, address, phone number, education, occupation, speeding tickets or convictions.

(sorry - had to go there)

Ok... I'm not going to respond... even though it's real tempting. Have fun on me... I'm a sport.

Thank you!Okay
09-11-2015 05:25 PM
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Post: #45
RE: Weight Gain From Water Retention
(09-11-2015 05:25 PM)Louis R. Wrote:  Ok... I'm not going to respond... even though it's real tempting. Have fun on me... I'm a sport.

Thank you!Okay

Thanks for being a sport... i am in a cheeky mood today and it got the better of me.

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Tongue Suck Technique for prevention of mouth breathing:
  • Place your tongue behind your front teeth on the roof of your mouth
  • let your tongue fill the space between the upper molars
  • gently suck to form a light vacuum
Practising during the day can help you to keep it at night

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09-11-2015 05:30 PM
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Post: #46
RE: Weight Gain From Water Retention
Louis: Don't use your real name in setting up the software.
I have seen people post jpegs of their graphs that have their real name.
Anonymity (as in medical privacy) is highly encouraged on the forum.

Alternatively, if you have photo editing software redact any personally identifying information from graphs you post.

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Post: #47
RE: Weight Gain From Water Retention
(09-11-2015 06:15 PM)justMongo Wrote:  Louis: Don't use your real name in setting up the software.
I have seen people post jpegs of their graphs that have their real name.
Anonymity (as in medical privacy) is highly encouraged on the forum.

Alternatively, if you have photo editing software redact any personally identifying information from graphs you post.

Ok point taken...
Right now I'm having a problem copying the SD card. When I click on "copy" I get no pop-up prompt windowThinking-about
I'm stuck. I'm going to try it again on another computer... I have had problems before with missing operating files on my eBay purchased computer.

Stand by.
Thanks
09-11-2015 08:24 PM
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Post: #48
RE: Weight Gain From Water Retention
(09-11-2015 01:48 PM)Louis R. Wrote:  And finally, is the following the only data that is found in the SD memory card, or is there other personal info hidden that could be accessed by tech savy folks??:
*Your CPAP usage.
*The hours you sleep every night.
*How well your therapy is working. Waveforms of your breathing patterns.
*Your machine type and serial number.

Regards, LOUIS

That's explained in the link I've posted twice before.

http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php..._your_data

Even if you enter your name, doctor, etc. into SleepyHead or Encore, none of that data is on your SD card.

Think of it this way: Assume you stole the CPAP machine from someone else and started using it. The machine (and SD card) has no info about your identity, only the prescription settings, and the data it records from measuring the airflow, etc. The machine exists in its won world and doesn't know whether it's connected to you or to Barack Obama.

Unless someone already has access to your medical or billing records, that doesn't mean anything to them. Even then, all it tells them is tell that Louis R. is the Louis R. Smith that they already have all your medical records, etc. Unless they're pissed at Louis R of apneaboard, it doesn't help them.

(09-11-2015 01:48 PM)Louis R. Wrote:  [quote='archangle' pid='130508' dateline='1441979159']
[quote='Louis R.' pid='130481' dateline='1441934199']
I am confused about the suggestion on raising the lower pressure?? Don't we want to lower it?

Once again, it's just something to experiment with, if you don't find your solution elsewhere.

It's possible that it will improve your treatment and reduce your water retention. If it doesn't help, change back to 4.

Get the free SleepyHead software here.
Useful links.
Click here for information on the main alternative to CPAP.
If it's midnight and a DME tells you it's dark outside, go and check it yourself.
09-11-2015 09:34 PM
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Post: #49
RE: Weight Gain From Water Retention
(09-11-2015 08:24 PM)Louis R. Wrote:  
(09-11-2015 06:15 PM)justMongo Wrote:  Louis: Don't use your real name in setting up the software.
I have seen people post jpegs of their graphs that have their real name.
Anonymity (as in medical privacy) is highly encouraged on the forum.

Alternatively, if you have photo editing software redact any personally identifying information from graphs you post.

Ok point taken...
Right now I'm having a problem copying the SD card. When I click on "copy" I get no pop-up prompt windowThinking-about
I'm stuck. I'm going to try it again on another computer... I have had problems before with missing operating files on my eBay purchased computer.

Stand by.
Thanks

Are you on Windows? Which version?

You may have to highlight the SD card with a single left click first, then right click.

Even if you post screenshots of SleepyHead data, most of those have no identifying data on them, other than the machine serial number. Only the statistics page has info on you, and that's just stuff like name and phone number, which are pretty much public knowledge. About the only thing somewhat private is your e-mail, which isn't really that private these days anyway.

Mostly useful if someone gets ticked off at Louis R. at apneaboard.

Get the free SleepyHead software here.
Useful links.
Click here for information on the main alternative to CPAP.
If it's midnight and a DME tells you it's dark outside, go and check it yourself.
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Post: #50
RE: Weight Gain From Water Retention
(09-11-2015 09:47 PM)archangle Wrote:  
(09-11-2015 08:24 PM)Louis R. Wrote:  
(09-11-2015 06:15 PM)justMongo Wrote:  

Ok point taken...
Right now I'm having a problem copying the SD card. When I click on "copy" I get no pop-up prompt windowThinking-about
I'm stuck. I'm going to try it again on another computer... I have had problems before with missing operating files on my eBay purchased computer.

Stand by.
Thanks

Are you on Windows? Which version?

You may have to highlight the SD card with a single left click first, then right click.


Mostly useful if someone gets ticked off at Louis R. at apneaboard.

Not only did I click and highlight the SD icon when it appeared in "my computer", I also tried right and left and center clicking too. I tried everything.
When I save the SleepyHead data in the computer in a file... when trying to attach to a post, the forum says that I can't load that type of file. What a pain!!
Unless someone can come up with a solution, I'm going to have to try this at my office on Monday.

Regards...LOUIS
Pretty soon my gorilla head is going to be poutingHuh
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