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Well, I'm building a new computer
Not being satisfied with the Dell 8700 I bought last spring, I am putting together a new machine.

Mobo: ASUS Z87 Pro
CPU: Intel i7 4770 Haswell
Case: NZXT Phantom 630 full tower
PSU: Cooler Master V850, 850 Watt full modular
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti superclocked.
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB DDR3 SDRAM, 1600 MHz, PC12800, 9, 9, 9, 24 latency.
Optical Drive: Plextor
Storage: 1TB Samsumg EVO 840 Pro SDD
OS: Windows 7 Pro, 64 bit

Now, I need to decide if I'm going to liquid cool the CPU. I'm not thrilled with any of the present offerings in air cooling for the LGA1150 socket. NZXT makes a 240x120mm radiator, liquid cooler that's meant for their case and the LGA115X socket.

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12-16-2014 11:55 AM
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RE: Well, I'm building a new computer
I have to upgrade my desktop which is basically going to be a rebuild. It was built for me and I swear she used crappy parts because I was out of state. I can't afford much so I'm getting all from NewEgg:

MB: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97X Killer LGA 1150
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 Haswell Dual-Core 3.2GHz LGA 1150
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

I'll expand the memory and upgrade the hard drive later. The graphics card is new. So is the power supply. I'd like to upgrade that.

I just looked up your CPU. Wow. That's a big one. And the most expensive part?

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12-16-2014 01:44 PM
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RE: Well, I'm building a new computer
(12-16-2014 01:44 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  I have to upgrade my desktop which is basically going to be a rebuild. It was built for me and I swear she used crappy parts because I was out of state. I can't afford much so I'm getting all from NewEgg:

MB: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97X Killer LGA 1150
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 Haswell Dual-Core 3.2GHz LGA 1150
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

I'll expand the memory and upgrade the hard drive later. The graphics card is new. So is the power supply. I'd like to upgrade that.

I just looked up your CPU. Wow. That's a big one. And the most expensive part?

I looked at the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Some people do not like the mounting hardware. One problem with large air coolers is their weight. The MOBO is vertical in a tower case, so the cooler in sideways. A mount that does not overly flex is essential. If I go air cooled, then that would be my choice. But the adventure of going to liquid cooling is calling me!

I paid $310 for the Processor. Memory is nearly $400. PSU $200, Case $200, I have $600 tied up in the SSD...
Your MOBO has the better support chips Z97X.

I buy from Newegg, TigerDirect; and directly from vendors in some cases.

Download "LGA1150_CPU_installation.pdf" I got it either from Intel or ASUS. Processor installation is critical. In theory it's easy. But, a mistake can be expensive.

You'll have to do a clean install of your OS. Hooking your old drive to a new MOBO and CPU will not work.

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RE: Well, I'm building a new computer
Yep. I'll backup all the critical files then just do a clean install.

And yeah, that cooler out sideways did have me wondering. They have another one that isn't as tall, so it has different center of gravity, but it's way cheap (in cost) which makes me concerned.

I forgot to look up the case you are getting.

When are you putting it together?

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RE: Well, I'm building a new computer
Liquid Nitrogen supercooling. Overclock the CPU to the max and never worry about heat. Freezing a hand and it breaking into little pieces yes. A overheated CPU never LOL
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RE: Well, I'm building a new computer
nice - I just bought a new laptop to replace my now dead VAIO-Z555. Desktops I don't get to upgrade just yet - running quadro FX cards and all that, and the Missus would kill me if I we for a new one - maybe next year when we switch to 4K for everything, then maybe something to keep up with the graphics processing.... But I DID upgrade my monitor from two ageing Samsung Syncmasters to a new LG 31 inch ultrawide - very nice and very neat. I think I'll try and get the hospital to spring for one for my office, too - we still use square screens there....
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RE: Well, I'm building a new computer
(12-16-2014 07:39 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  When are you putting it together?

I have the cpu and memory in the mobo. I'm waiting for the case.
I should have it up and running by New Years.

(12-17-2014 07:12 AM)DocWils Wrote:  ...But I DID upgrade my monitor from two ageing Samsung Syncmasters to a new LG 31 inch ultrawide - very nice and very neat...

I'm running a 27 inch ASUS monitor. 16:9 aspect ratio. Sure is nice to have a large screen. Almost as good as dual monitors as I can have two programs open next to each other. Such as WORD plus a web browser.

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RE: Well, I'm building a new computer
(12-16-2014 09:52 PM)Ghost1958 Wrote:  Liquid Nitrogen supercooling. Overclock the CPU to the max and never worry about heat. Freezing a hand and it breaking into little pieces yes. A overheated CPU never LOL

Semiconductors have a flaw at LN2 temperatures.
They are extrinsic semiconductors -- they rely on having enough thermal energy for the valence electrons in the dopant atoms (Arsenic, Phosphorus, Boron) to become free electrons (or holes) in the conduction band.

At LN2 temps P and N type semiconductors become intrinsic.
Short story -- they don't work. You'll find most MIL-SPEC semiconductors rated to only -55C. LN2 is 77 Kelvin = -196 C.

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RE: Well, I'm building a new computer
Not a 16:9, a 21:9 [link removed]. Nearly as wide as my tow wide screen monitors from before, but no bezel. I love it.

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RE: Well, I'm building a new computer
I have a pair of those Samsung 1TB in my personal laptop 'server' Windows 2012-R2 (it's not used a a server per se, but is my previous laptop).

They have given good service so far. (Software) RAID5 (mirror) for the OS.

Only a 17" screen (but laptops are usually closer, so the effective size is generally larger.

I also run a bunch of fairly obsolete junk for various test servers, as well as a couple of slightly outdated virtual host servers (48gb and 32gb of RAM with some fairly large drives to give quite a variety of virtual machines.) One is a 2012-R2 Hyper-V the other a VMWare -- these are also my 'learning' machines for keeping up with technology or testing things.

Mostly, I don't try for 'start of the art' -- I am happy if they boot and run reliably. Wink Even my media PC attached to the big screen (72") TV is obsolete by Mongo's standards. (It does have a PILE of DISKS though.)

BTW, while rehabbing my knees, we bought a new house about 3 miles up the road and need to move in late Jan -- all this stuff has to be disconnected and reconnected at the other end -- I hate hardware.

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