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What I learned today about mini-apneas and fatigue or why SH is the bomb
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What I learned today about mini-apneas and fatigue or why SH is the bomb
SleepyHead > File > Preferences > CPAP > Enable Custom CPAP User Event Flagging.

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lets me see mini-apneas.
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Despite an AHI 0f 0 I felt like crap that morning. Now I know why. I may not have scored bad things per sleep medicine standards but there are a whole lot of 50% flow reductions lasting 8 seconds. I doubt they had much effect on O2 but may well have disturbed my sleep. Must wait for pulse-oximeter and Open EEG to answer these question but funds are not currently available.

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(This post was last modified: 06-19-2015 12:48 PM by Mark Douglas.)
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RE: What I learned today about mini-apneas and fatigue or why SH is the bomb
feeling like crap with a low AHI can also be a sign of poor sleep architecture - like not enuff REM or deep sleep, or even a sign that you did not actually sleep. The flow limitations tho, show a probability of sleep, at least.

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Tongue Suck Technique for prevention of mouth breathing:
  • Place your tongue behind your front teeth on the roof of your mouth
  • let your tongue fill the space between the upper molars
  • gently suck to form a light vacuum
Practising during the day can help you to keep it at night

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06-19-2015 12:47 PM
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Mark Douglas Offline

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RE: What I learned today about mini-apneas and fatigue or why SH is the bomb
(06-19-2015 12:47 PM)DariaVader Wrote:  feeling like crap with a low AHI can also be a sign of poor sleep architecture - like not enuff REM or deep sleep, or even a sign that you did not actually sleep. The flow limitations tho, show a probability of sleep, at least.

Exactly!
Now what to do about it. First find a mask that prevents mouth leakage and that is not going so well Oh-jeez

I use my PAP machine nightly and I feel great!
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06-19-2015 12:52 PM
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RE: What I learned today about mini-apneas and fatigue or why SH is the bomb
master the tongue vacuum Wink

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Tongue Suck Technique for prevention of mouth breathing:
  • Place your tongue behind your front teeth on the roof of your mouth
  • let your tongue fill the space between the upper molars
  • gently suck to form a light vacuum
Practising during the day can help you to keep it at night

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Wow, SleepHead looks like a very technical program! Very impressed with the diverse settings and the graphs. And that you could see something that professionals could easily miss. Can't wait to get started with it!

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06-19-2015 01:02 PM
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Mark Douglas Offline

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RE: What I learned today about mini-apneas and fatigue or why SH is the bomb
(06-19-2015 12:55 PM)DariaVader Wrote:  master the tongue vacuum Wink

Maybe I need a foo foo Too-funny
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I use my PAP machine nightly and I feel great!
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RemStar BiPAP Auto with Bi-FlexModel 760P -
Rise Time x3 Fixed Bi-Level EPAP 9.0 IPAP 11.5 (cmH2O)
06-19-2015 01:09 PM
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RE: What I learned today about mini-apneas and fatigue or why SH is the bomb
I had to rebuild the data in order for the event graph to display these flags. Also, I went into the "Events tab" and edited the "UF1" and "UF2" names to "20% Flow Restriction" and "50% Flow Restriction". I then changed their labels to "FR20" and "FR50" for the Events graph. Now I'll know what they represent.

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06-19-2015 01:32 PM
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Thanks for the tip. I never bothered with those settings until now. My graph isn't as splattered as yours but there are some FR50 and a few 20.



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(06-19-2015 01:32 PM)sgearhart Wrote:  I had to rebuild the data in order for the event graph to display these flags. Also, I went into the "Events tab" and edited the "UF1" and "UF2" names to "20% Flow Restriction" and "50% Flow Restriction". I then changed their labels to "FR20" and "FR50" for the Events graph. Now I'll know what they represent.

I rebuilt my data and restarted SH and still dont have them in the events - just the pie chart. booo.

هههههه هههههه هههههه هههههه هههههه هههههه هههههه هههههه هههههه هههههه هههههه هههههه هههههه هههههه
Tongue Suck Technique for prevention of mouth breathing:
  • Place your tongue behind your front teeth on the roof of your mouth
  • let your tongue fill the space between the upper molars
  • gently suck to form a light vacuum
Practising during the day can help you to keep it at night

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RE: What I learned today about mini-apneas and fatigue or why SH is the bomb
never mind - seems that SH had crashed instead of closing down, so new settings only partially took effect. I seem to have 1 night of corrupt data - crash everytime i look. Going to have to delete that night and re-import.

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Tongue Suck Technique for prevention of mouth breathing:
  • Place your tongue behind your front teeth on the roof of your mouth
  • let your tongue fill the space between the upper molars
  • gently suck to form a light vacuum
Practising during the day can help you to keep it at night

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