Post Reply 
What to do about three o'clock in the morning panic attacks?
Author Message
retired_guy Offline

Preferred Members-2

Posts: 2,744
Joined: Jan 2014

Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Resmed Airfit P10
Humidifier: ResMed
CPAP Pressure: 10.6/14, EPR 3
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: Is it bedtime yet?

Sex: Male
Location: Beautiful, albeit very wet Oregon Coast

Post: #21
RE: What to do about three o'clock in the morning panic attacks?
Happily I do not have any issues such as this. I empathize with those of you that do. I do have an issue waking up at 6:00 in the morning because a herd of wild buffalo is stampeding through the room. Well, maybe not buffalo, maybe just the two puppies. But it sounds like buffalo when you're trying to sleep.

As far as the not sleeping in the middle of the night is concerned? Instead of some of these drugs being talked about, I'm thinking if I did that I would try a joint, or tincture, of a nice herbal substance available at select "dispensaries" in many areas these days... Or by special request from your local teenage kid or something. I'm thinking that in my case, that might do as well as anything to relax me, and if not, I probably wouldn't really care. Not really advocating any illegal substance use here......... Just sayin'
07-22-2014 10:36 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Sleepster Offline
Wiki Editor
Moderators

Posts: 4,988
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: ResMed AirCurve10 VAuto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: HumidAir and SlimLine Hose
CPAP Pressure: MaxI 13.6 | MinE 5.2 | PS 4.4
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: Diagnosed Nov 2011. Conquered aerophagia.

Sex: Male
Location: Houston, Texas

Post: #22
RE: What to do about three o'clock in the morning panic attacks?
(07-22-2014 08:56 PM)WakeUpTime Wrote:  If I could only duplicate the quality of sleep that takes place in the first 3 hours (with no meds), I'd be so incredibly happy. But, I'm beginning to think this might just be the way it's going to be. BUT, I thought I'd never get below an AHI of 10 and now I'm at 3-4, so all things are possible I suppose.

For me, it eventually faded away. I would wake up 2-4 hours after falling asleep and have trouble falling back asleep. Gradually the number of nights where I had to get out of bed for awhile decreased, now it's rare. And there were set backs along the way. Two steps forward, one back. It's been almost three years and it's still improving.

Now I wake up after about 6 hours of sleep, sometimes I can get back to sleep and sometimes I can't. I have trouble falling asleep.

I've use sleeping pills sparingly with some success.

Sleepster
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com


INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
07-22-2014 11:15 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
me50 Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 2,559
Joined: Aug 2013

Machine: resmed S9 VPAP Auto
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Wisp and Silicone Head gear
Humidifier: resmed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 18/8
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: USA

Post: #23
RE: What to do about three o'clock in the morning panic attacks?
try somnapure. many people that I know have tried it and say it works great. it is OTC and supposed to be all natural.

here is to a successful hosehead experience.
07-23-2014 05:20 AM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Dolla Bill Offline

Preferred Members-2

Posts: 72
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: ResMed AirSense Autoset S10
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Swift Air fit P10 nasal pillow
Humidifier: Airsense 10 Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: avg. 10.1
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Atlanta

Post: #24
RE: What to do about three o'clock in the morning panic attacks?
Seem to have fixed the problem. I got a chinstrap and the anxiety attacks stopped.

I am not familiar enough with reading the data from Sleepyhead and ReScan, but am guessing that the problem was mouth breathing that somehow caused me cluster AHIs which in turn, made my body go into some kind of panic attacks, trying to get better oxygen.

Then I would wake up with my body panicking and bring my mind into the arena, making it worse. My mind was looking around trying to find the source of the body's panic attacks and transferring these fears to small everyday problems and making them into very big problems that seemed almost life or death situations.Oh-jeez

At one point in my life, I lost about 50 pounds, quit snoring and thought the apnea was cured. In a few weeks I began having a host of scary symptoms including chest pains in the night. Thought I was having a heart attack.

I went to a cardiologist and had a battery of tests with the cardiologist telling me I was in better shape than him though I was twice his age.

"Disgustingly normal." Was the verdict. As we talked I mentioned apnea in conjunction with the night chest pains. He told me that if I had an EKG at 3:00 am, he would've probably put me in a hospital! It could have read that serious.

Certainly my recent situation was not all that bad, but bad enough!

So I got a chin strap. A circular belt like device. However it slides off my head too eaisly. So I got one that covers my head and does not move, but I have a very big head (no remarks, please:laugh-a-lotSmile. A 7 3/4" hat is tight on me.

So this one-size-fits-all is just, plain too freaking tight. It hurts on its biggest Velcro settings. My face bulges out the openings. Makes it hard to sleep.

So I need an extra large chinstrap headgear, or I may need (shudder :dont-knowSmile a full face mask. I don't want to go there, but must do one or the other.

I just got an Airfit to replace my Swift FX and it is lots better. Would rather not give it up.

Anyone have any ideas?
07-30-2014 05:59 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
retired_guy Offline

Preferred Members-2

Posts: 2,744
Joined: Jan 2014

Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Resmed Airfit P10
Humidifier: ResMed
CPAP Pressure: 10.6/14, EPR 3
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: Is it bedtime yet?

Sex: Male
Location: Beautiful, albeit very wet Oregon Coast

Post: #25
RE: What to do about three o'clock in the morning panic attacks?
Good to hear you're putting those panic-attacks behind you!

Jimzzz hooked me up with a Carefusion TMS-11 Puresom Ultra Chin Strap. It's a simple single band solution and it does stay put at night. I like it because it's much cooler than many of the alternatives. I wear it UNDER my P10 mask. It's inexpensive too.

....and Mrs. Retired_Guy says that when I'm done with it she could sew an elastic ring around the top of the bands and it would make a great thong!
07-30-2014 07:02 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Dolla Bill Offline

Preferred Members-2

Posts: 72
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: ResMed AirSense Autoset S10
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Swift Air fit P10 nasal pillow
Humidifier: Airsense 10 Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: avg. 10.1
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Atlanta

Post: #26
RE: What to do about three o'clock in the morning panic attacks?
(07-30-2014 07:02 PM)retired_guy Wrote:  Good to hear you're putting those panic-attacks behind you!

Jimzzz hooked me up with a Carefusion TMS-11 Puresom Ultra Chin Strap. It's a simple single band solution and it does stay put at night. I like it because it's much cooler than many of the alternatives. I wear it UNDER my P10 mask. It's inexpensive too.

....and Mrs. Retired_Guy says that when I'm done with it she could sew an elastic ring around the top of the bands and it would make a great thong!

Cooler would be good. Don't see how it would stay in place, however.

This is the "full coverage" mask I got. Would work except it is too tight
[commercial link removed per Apnea Board rules]

Here is the single chin strap I got that keeps coming off.
[commercial link removed per Apnea Board rules]




-----
Moderator Action: Link Removed
To maintain our status as an educational organization, the only commercial links allowed in this forum are to CPAP-related manufacturer websites. This is stated in the Apnea Board Rules with details given in the Commercial Links Policy section.
-----
07-30-2014 08:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
Sleepster Offline
Wiki Editor
Moderators

Posts: 4,988
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: ResMed AirCurve10 VAuto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: HumidAir and SlimLine Hose
CPAP Pressure: MaxI 13.6 | MinE 5.2 | PS 4.4
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: Diagnosed Nov 2011. Conquered aerophagia.

Sex: Male
Location: Houston, Texas

Post: #27
RE: What to do about three o'clock in the morning panic attacks?
(07-30-2014 05:59 PM)Dolla Bill Wrote:  I am not familiar enough with reading the data from Sleepyhead and ReScan, but am guessing that the problem was mouth breathing that somehow caused me cluster AHIs which in turn, made my body go into some kind of panic attacks, trying to get better oxygen.

Look at the leak graph. It's easy to see large regions of time when the leak is larger than usual. These are signs of mouth-leaking.

When that happens your CPAP machine can no longer maintain the air splint, your airway collapses, and renders the CPAP machine useless.

To learn more about serious issues with keeping chin straps in please start reading this thread here:

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...2#pid44102

JJJ eventually had chin straps custom made.

Sleepster
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com


INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
07-30-2014 09:28 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
retired_guy Offline

Preferred Members-2

Posts: 2,744
Joined: Jan 2014

Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Resmed Airfit P10
Humidifier: ResMed
CPAP Pressure: 10.6/14, EPR 3
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: Is it bedtime yet?

Sex: Male
Location: Beautiful, albeit very wet Oregon Coast

Post: #28
RE: What to do about three o'clock in the morning panic attacks?
(07-30-2014 08:30 PM)Dolla Bill Wrote:  Cooler would be good. Don't see how it would stay in place, however.

staples.........
Actually, it does stay put. Maybe because it's under the P10 mask, maybe because it is so lightweight. Don't know. But I like it.

(07-30-2014 08:30 PM)Dolla Bill Wrote:  Here is the single chin strap I got that keeps coming off.

Yep, I tried one of those. Way too small. I could put it on, but it fit way too tight.
07-30-2014 09:43 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
Dolla Bill Offline

Preferred Members-2

Posts: 72
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: ResMed AirSense Autoset S10
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Swift Air fit P10 nasal pillow
Humidifier: Airsense 10 Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: avg. 10.1
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Atlanta

Post: #29
RE: What to do about three o'clock in the morning panic attacks?
Good info in the chin strap post. 5 Pages! I'll check the Sleepyhead data with the info posted in this thread.

The/A chinstrap is the way to go. Definitely helping. May get some thread and see about modifying.

I really like the P10 Airfit. Don't want to go full-face, but it is a possibility. Would guess they have improved since I began using a CPAP six years ago.
07-30-2014 09:59 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Dolla Bill Offline

Preferred Members-2

Posts: 72
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: ResMed AirSense Autoset S10
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Swift Air fit P10 nasal pillow
Humidifier: Airsense 10 Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: avg. 10.1
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Atlanta

Post: #30
RE: What to do about three o'clock in the morning panic attacks?
Not finding that a chin strap works for me. Think I am best going full face.
08-10-2014 11:43 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
  No reduction in heart attacks for cpap users Crist 23 1,491 08-29-2016 07:04 PM
Last Post: Sleepster
  early morning leakage problems jxyzobrien 1 312 08-17-2016 07:11 AM
Last Post: icyura10
Question AHI Panic limit JamesW 4 367 08-08-2016 06:45 PM
Last Post: Ghost1958
  how to adjust clock on Resmed autoset 9 Marl1n 3 463 07-25-2016 10:12 AM
Last Post: PaulaO2
  AirSense 10 AutoSet - Clock 12 hours off? daveasu 4 726 04-11-2016 11:10 PM
Last Post: daveasu
  Good morning... New user here kyhmm72 10 842 03-31-2016 07:46 AM
Last Post: FrankNichols
  Humidifier almost full in the morning? ezdrifler 4 756 01-28-2016 11:00 PM
Last Post: ezdrifler

Forum Jump:

Who's Online (Complete List)