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What would be a seriously long apnea event ?
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What would be a seriously long apnea event ?
So I caught a cold (no, not covid) and as a result had one night of phlegmy living (apologies to anyone reading while eating breakfast..). 
Usually I have somewhere between 0 and 5 OAs, but last night I had 33.
Im looking thru the events and noticed a handful in the 40-55 second range.
Obviously, an 11 second long apnea isn't as bad for you as a 55 second one.
How come apneas are not graded , or maybe combined into an index of some sort ?
 
Anyone else ever note any seriously long apneas ?

ps - I had thought of a 'contest' of sorts for Longest Apnea, but I guess the winner would get a granite slab with their name on it.. so lets not go there. Smile
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#2
RE: What would be a seriously long apnea event ?
Some of that is indicated via OSCAR's total time in apnea statistic. And as those of us who use pulse oximeters can attest, those long apneas will cause dramatic desaturations, while a series of short apneas with recovery breathing in between doesn't cause the same sort of problem.

But also it's important to keep in mind that sleep apnea is not usually something that kills you through oxygen deprivation -- what kills you is sleep deprivation and continuously being awakened.
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I suppose a 90 second Apnea like I had on my 2017 BPAP Titration would be considered long.

Maybe I was dreaming of underwater swimming. Cue the Jaws theme.
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RE: What would be a seriously long apnea event ?
The last Apnea you ever have ?
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RE: What would be a seriously long apnea event ?
The image below can be my entry for your morbid Smile  contest if you have one. Thankfully my OA was fixable. I'd bet someone would soon show much worse from from off a slab. 

What you see is not the worst in regard to total time in apnea, TTIA, for a night. It is a spread with my longest apnea pair, 155 seconds (my greatest OA density for a 2+ minute period) interrupted only by a cardioballistic-like wave. The 155 here and elsewhere had lots of lengthy neighbors, numerous ones over 100, up to 120.

The graphic attests to my then-total ignorance and to poor MD guidance, as an apneic himself, after his Rx-ing the best machine for me (IMO).

You can see why I was frantic my fourth CPAP night with troubled ignorance, FFM leaks (that noisy thing, so many other nights on my face)  and a machine set to 7 cm H20 on CPAP.  Hoping this was not normal therapy nor my future, I began looking for help from MD, DME and online. 

My "Call for Excel VBA help ..." thread in the Software Forum has as its main work image one from November 2015 that shows OA nearly eliminated, but with lots of remaining FL. It shows the effect of sleep positions on FL-flag indications of breathing flow limitations before I added a cervical collar to my sleep armory. Much improvement followed, thanks to AB guidance one way or another

My simple OSA as above was soon tamed by the Autoset and its titration advice here at AB--some from merely lurking here, one or more times by direct posts.

I eventually got SleepyHead,  thanks to ApeaBoard, and was able to look back amazed at such things. I-love-CPAP ---Gotta! I-love-Apnea-Board

The LORD has given me just over 6 more years and much more unearned favor--some not enjoyed at all at the time. But I am not on that slab yet. 

   
I have no particular qualifications or expertise with respect to the apnea/cpap/sleep related content of my posts beyond my own user experiences and what I've learned from others on this site. Each of us bears the burden of evaluating the validity and applicability of what we read here before acting on it.  

Of my 3 once-needed, helpful, and adjunctive devices I have listed, only the accelerometer remains operative (but now idle). My second CMS50I died, too, of old age and the so-so Dreem 2 needs head-positioning band repair--if, indeed, Dreem even supports use of it now.



 
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RE: What would be a seriously long apnea event ?
Neurologist told me that my longest was almost 3 minutes. Not sure if i break a record here though Smile
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This is toooo funny....granite slab....lolol!
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My max was 104 sec
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They are “graded” see my signature for the difference between O, H and flow limits.
Apnea (80-100%) 10 seconds, Hypopnea (50-80%) 10 seconds, Flow Limits (0-50%) not timed  Cervical Collar - Dealing w DME - Chart Organizing
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"Apnea–Hypopnea Event Duration Predicts Mortality in Men and Women in the Sleep Heart Health Study"......The AHI did not.....  so keep you CPAP Mask on and your event duration low.
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