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Post: #31
RE: Worse sleep with CPAP machine
Ok, I wonder if you are wearing the mask correctly. Maybe the straps aren't attached properly.
A mask should not cause your ear and jawline to be swollen. Sad

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Post: #32
RE: Worse sleep with CPAP machine
(08-31-2016 09:36 PM)Jules23 Wrote:  How do you people do it????

It wasn't easy for me, but from what you're telling us, it was much much harder for you. For some reason some people just can't tolerate it and those of us who can just don't understand why everyone else can't also tolerate it.

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09-01-2016 09:36 PM
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Post: #33
RE: Worse sleep with CPAP machine
(08-31-2016 09:57 PM)eseedhouse Wrote:  Even the highest pressure the typical machine can put out is only about 2% of the normal air pressure at sea level.

Yes, but tolerating a pressure 2% above atmospheric pressure is not the same as tolerating a pressure difference of 2%.

Descending from the top of a sky scraper might cause a rise in pressure of 2%, but once you adjust by a pop of the ears or whatever, that's a 2% rise on both the inside and outside of your body.

With a CPAP machine you're raising the pressure inside your lungs by 2%, but the pressure outside your body remains the same.

Pressurizing your entire bedroom doesn't have the same effect as strapping on a CPAP machine. The former will do nothing to help your obstructive sleep apnea.

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Post: #34
RE: Worse sleep with CPAP machine
(09-01-2016 09:52 PM)Sleepster Wrote:  With a CPAP machine you're raising the pressure inside your lungs by 2%, but the pressure outside your body remains the same.

Sure, but taking American units the air pressure at sea level is 14 pounds per square inch, more or less. A CPAP going full blast puts an extra .28 or less that 5 ounces per square inch. And most patients get a lot less pressure than that. If you hold your lips closed and blow out to puff out your cheeks you are probably adding a lot more pressure than your CPAP is capable of.

I see nothing wrong with starting well below your goal pressure to start. Start out as high as you can stand and take a few days or weeks or whatever you need to get comfortable then slowly raise it to your indicated therapeutic level. I didn't need that but I am sure some people do.

That said we know there are a lot of people who can't and don't get used to CPAP and fail compliance and the rate of failure is disturbingly high - too high in my opinion, and I think that the companies that make them and I the doctors that prescribe them need to do some serious thinking about that.

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09-02-2016 06:38 PM
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