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Would you buy non data capable CPAP machine?
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TheDreamer Offline

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Machine: Intellipap Auto
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Mask Make & Model: RespCare Bravo II
Humidifier: F&P HC150
CPAP Pressure: 7.5-15
CPAP Software: EncoreViewer Other Software

Other Comments: RLS, Essential Tremor, Narcolepsy/Cataplexy

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Location: Manhattan, KS

Post: #21
RE: Would you buy non data capable CPAP machine?
I originally got a Pro, because the doctor had prescribed a data capable machine ... saying that he wanted to be able to review data.

But, he never has never requested more than just summary data from my DME, and then I hand him detailed reports that I've generated, he just skips to the last page.

And, just assumes the missing days are because I didn't use it...not because the DME had my card. Or using the machine in my go bag.....

I still generate full reports myself for him....though I'm thinking I might not now. Since, the copy fees to get my records from my doctor into my online health record is high (>$1 per page)...and paying to get him to send me copies of the CPAP reports I gave me is ridiculous....since he doesn't pay any attention to them.

He thinks the all the leak reported on the graph is bad.....doesn't seem to know that its supposed to leak. Though I thought it was an interesting graph...it shows a sharp drop one night...and I slept pretty darn good that night. Or that its gradually been increasing the last couple of weeks (keep forgetting to get new pillows.)

The Dreamer.

You may be a dreamer, but I'm The Dreamer, the definite article you might say!
03-23-2012 07:44 PM
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COPD2 Offline

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Machine: Resmed S8 VPAP Auto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model:
Humidifier: Humidaire H3i
CPAP Pressure: IPAP 14, EPAP 10
CPAP Software: ResScan EncorePro

Other Comments: PR SystemOne BPAP Auto w/Humidifier - Respironics EverFlo Concentrator

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Location: Mid-Michigan

Post: #22
RE: Would you buy non data capable CPAP machine?
Back in the days of the Resmed S7s there was a module, the S7 ResLink, that could provide a little more data, had an oximeter attachment that could be added to the ResLink AND thru the ResLink the lower level models could be upgraded to a more sophisticated model - but they had quite a bit of trouble w/the upgrading of the firmware and when they came out w/the S8s, the S8 ResLink no longer had that upgrading option.

Thru the S7s, S8s and even the S9s, Resmed has been the leader and excelled in the ease of access to and amount of data available via the LCD screen. The ResScan software is easier to use and understand and more versatile than PRs EncorePro and doesn't have the limitations of EncoreViewer.
03-24-2012 10:48 AM
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Fosco Offline

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Machine: Phillips respironics REMstar Auto A-Flex
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
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Humidifier: System One
CPAP Pressure: 11-20
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Sex: Male
Location: New Mexico at 7200'

Post: #23
RE: Would you buy non data capable CPAP machine?
After 4 years, I am completely ignorant of "data" capabilities, if any, of my RemStar Plus M-series. I know nothing of what "data" I ought to be interested in and do not know how I would obtain it or evaluate it as none of my doctors have ever looked at it. I find it interesting that others on this forum seem to know something about their own "data".
03-24-2012 02:34 PM
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greatunclebill Offline

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Machine: Respironics System one Auto A-Flex
Mask Type: Full face mask
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Humidifier: System one
CPAP Pressure: 8-12
CPAP Software: SleepyHead EncoreViewer

Other Comments: quattro fx full face

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Location: L.A. (Lower Alabama)

Post: #24
RE: Would you buy non data capable CPAP machine?
(03-24-2012 02:34 PM)Fosco Wrote:  After 4 years, I am completely ignorant of "data" capabilities, if any, of my RemStar Plus M-series. I know nothing of what "data" I ought to be interested in and do not know how I would obtain it or evaluate it as none of my doctors have ever looked at it. I find it interesting that others on this forum seem to know something about their own "data".

you have a year to get well versed in what you want and how to tell your doc. most insurance companies will replace your machine every 5 years. read,read, read and ask, ask, ask.
03-24-2012 03:04 PM
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COPD2 Offline

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Machine: Resmed S8 VPAP Auto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model:
Humidifier: Humidaire H3i
CPAP Pressure: IPAP 14, EPAP 10
CPAP Software: ResScan EncorePro

Other Comments: PR SystemOne BPAP Auto w/Humidifier - Respironics EverFlo Concentrator

Sex: Female
Location: Mid-Michigan

Post: #25
RE: Would you buy non data capable CPAP machine?
(03-24-2012 02:34 PM)Fosco Wrote:  After 4 years, I am completely ignorant of "data" capabilities, if any, of my RemStar Plus M-series. I know nothing of what "data" I ought to be interested in and do not know how I would obtain it or evaluate it as none of my doctors have ever looked at it. I find it interesting that others on this forum seem to know something about their own "data".
Welcome to apneaboard, Fosco. I take it that after 4 years on CPAP you are encountering some problems again that brought you to search for and find "us". GOOD ON YOU. An informed patient is in a much better position to get good medical care. No one has a more vested interest in your health than you do. And you are the only one to endure the benefits - or consequences - of any test, procedure or therapy you elect to try.

That being said: the first and most important thing is how you FEEL in the morning when you wake and only you can determine that. The data that some CPAPs are able to report can provide some effective clues as to what is going "wrong" if you aren't feeling rested when you wake in the morning.

That data would include your AI (apnea index, i.e. how many apneas you encounter per hour of sleep), your AHI (apnea/hypopnea index, i.e. how many apneas and hypopneas you encounter per hour of sleep and your Leak rate, i.e. if you are leaking excessive therapy pressure thru your mouth or insufficient mask seal.

Most all CPAPs provide "compliance" data, i.e. how many hours per night you are using your CPAP and how many nights you are using your CPAP. Mostly this compliance data's only value is for your local DME provider to have on hand to provide to your insurance as proof that you are using your CPAP enough to make it worthwhile for your insurance to pay for it. Once your CPAP has been paid in full most providers have no further interest in your compliance data.

Your RemStar Plus is NOT capable of providing any more than compliance data. No RemStar CPAP w/Plus in the model name is capable of providing anthing more than compliance data - which is of no real use to you. Respironics is the manufacturer, they use RemStar as part of all their model names. Respironics has been purchased by Philips and now is know as Philips Respironics and we usually refer to them now as PR as it is shorter. PR is the leading manufacturer of CPAPs in the USA.

The second leading manufacturer is Resmed. Between them, Resmed and PR provide about 80% of all CPAP sales in the USA.
03-24-2012 11:59 PM
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