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Yesterday I bought a used model 650P PRS1 BiPAP Pro locally using craigslist. Got it for $280.

I've been searching for a deal like this for a long time. I was really wanting to get the 750P, but this will do. I sleep better knowing I have a back up machine ... just in case.

Blower motor has 289 hours on it. Looks like the original owner gave it a good try but couldn't tolerate the pressure of 25/18.

At first the idea of depriving him of a chance for success bothered me, but after talking to him I quickly realized there was no way he was going to keep trying. I see surgery in his future.
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Good job that... I have seen these bargains on Craigslist as well, and I'm always tempted to pick up a few spares. It is unfortunate but true that many machines are purchased and supplied to people who really need them but just will not use them. In the end I suppose it's part of the "thinning of the herd" process.
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I have seen some bargains in the area of battery backup stuff as well.

The thing that I wonder about is the basic inflexibility of the sleep medicine bunch. Is it effective treatment when people opt out of treatment when they cannot get even the slightest change in machine pressures?

Most of us in life have several areas where things are not to the highest bar, somehow for reasons the bar got lowered. The world did not stop. We did not get the best ideal thing but we forged on and made do. I have not seen where sleep medicine is like life and death critical surgery where one wrong move and the its the big dirt nap for the patient.

Sorry did not mean to hijack here just thinking about all those people not getting treatment after crashing into the present system and giving up and selling their sleep machines.
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(06-18-2014, 12:43 PM)goodonya Wrote: Sorry did not mean to hijack here just thinking about all those people not getting treatment after crashing into the present system and giving up and selling their sleep machines.

...and yet, this is life and death stuff. For instance in my case: If I had not received this "gift" of therapy, or not chosen to stay with it, my tendency to fall asleep behind the wheel would have no doubt continued, and possibly gotten worse. I wonder how many lives are lost each year to dozing off drivers. So, I wonder how many of the 50% or so people that give up on this therapy will end up dead or killing others in an "accident." To me, it's an accident if you don't know better. I know better and I would never again allow myself to be a risk to myself, my family or anyone else on the road because it was too "inconvenient" for me to learn and use the cpap therapy.

...now, THAT'S off topic.
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This poor guy had sinus problems, too. So he had a full face mask and a pressure of 25. I don't think I could tolerate that, either.

Those of us who can tolerate what we've got would do well to be thankful. Just think where we'd be without CPAP therapy.
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I hope I did not sound like I am against the therapy here. I have restricted my life in a huge way to huge expense while staggering through trying to get this right. I had a 35 year career in construction go away because I am somehow not just clicking in on this treatment.

Does not mean I am giving up. I am on my third machine and moving on from my second sleep doctor and second sleep study. I no longer allow my self to take road trips or work at my trade. I am not giving up.


The whole business of inflexibility driving people into not following through on treatment is real. A huge service here has been done to give people who want it a handle to help themselves while continuing to wrassle with the system.

These Doctors act like it is the pressures are set in stone or they want to be a sole source of information as to what they are doing and why without saying what they are doing and why.

Either way it does not fly for a lot of people. They do not get the treatment they need and should have not just for themselves but the rest of the people around them as well.
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#7
I've had very good luck with craigslist, so far I've picked up a m series cpap, s9 elite, vpap adapt, vpap auto and a prs1 560p.

had the m at first, then moved to the s9, decided I wanted an autoset, got the 560p, bought the adapt for a friend with csr caused by his then undiagnosed chf (which we discovered when I loaned him my old elite and went "oh, crap" after looking at his waveform data), then decided I didn't like the 560p so much, and came across the vpap auto, which I'm pretty happy with.

I like 'doing the deal' at a local starbucks... lots of people around, (comforting for those "bring cash" sellers) and usually easy to find a power outlet to plug the machine in and test it... Smile
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(06-18-2014, 12:56 PM)retired_guy Wrote:
(06-18-2014, 12:43 PM)goodonya Wrote: Sorry did not mean to hijack here just thinking about all those people not getting treatment after crashing into the present system and giving up and selling their sleep machines.

...and yet, this is life and death stuff. For instance in my case: If I had not received this "gift" of therapy, or not chosen to stay with it, my tendency to fall asleep behind the wheel would have no doubt continued, and possibly gotten worse. I wonder how many lives are lost each year to dozing off drivers. So, I wonder how many of the 50% or so people that give up on this therapy will end up dead or killing others in an "accident." To me, it's an accident if you don't know better. I know better and I would never again allow myself to be a risk to myself, my family or anyone else on the road because it was too "inconvenient" for me to learn and use the cpap therapy.

...now, THAT'S off topic.

Adding to it, while I had 'naturally' tailored my life to keeping me awake as a truck driver (smoking, pepsi habit, snacking, books on tape, etc) my heart was in actual fact dying, as my pulse would not drop below 122 (even with valium injected), and I could not eat and keep any food down the first four hours after waking (out one end or the other every time) doc said I was too tired and my body was rejecting food - and even though really fat (409lbs at my biggest)I slept 'best' on my stomach *only*. I really thought that my ability to sleep anywhere, at any time was a good smart thing - LOL.

The sad thing is for many, if they do not see/feel instant success, they will quit. For me it was a light switch type change - overnight - started dreaming again, and everything - took my heart the better part of ten years to 'heal', resting pulse is 60-70 now.
*I* am not a DOCTOR or any type of Health Care Professional.  My thoughts/suggestions/ideas are strictly only my opinions.

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#9
Gumtree in Australia is sort of mini craigslist but advertised prices are so much higher

Selling CPAP machine in US without prescription is illegal and for that reason CPAP auction been closed and you cannot buy CPAP on ebay

I would not feel comfortable buying a machine at any price from someone who don,t own the machine outright and money still owing to insurance
Edit: for this type of person, better if they keep the machine themselves and learn how to use it
After all, you can flog the machine but you can flog apnea, apnea does not goes away

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(06-18-2014, 04:56 PM)Peter_C Wrote: The sad thing is for many, if they do not see/feel instant success, they will quit. For me it was a light switch type change - overnight - started dreaming again, and everything - took my heart the better part of ten years to 'heal', resting pulse is 60-70 now.

Wow good work Pete!
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