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RE: crowdsourcing to "maximize the effectives of CPAP in the U.S."
I think it must be a nobel cause.
Money is very dirty and by giving it all to them, they can have it in safe keeping thereby
reducing the spread of disease!

Uhm...yah, that's it! Disease!

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RE: crowdsourcing to "maximize the effectives of CPAP in the U.S."
Wow!! And to think there's 3 phases to all of this. Oh well, I guess I won't be seeing the great things of phase 2 and 3.
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RE: crowdsourcing to "maximize the effectives of CPAP in the U.S."
I don't think anyone will be seeing the great things of phases 2 and 3. His CPAP Horizon Project intro video on YouTube has only 60 views in 7 months. Wink It's probably nothing more than a B-school project.
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RE: crowdsourcing to "maximize the effectives of CPAP in the U.S."
Read their web page. It's pretty clear that it's about helping the doctors and DMEs, not working directly with the patients.

It would really be helpful if the CPAP doctors and DMEs were more knowledgeable and did a better job. Maybe this organization will help.

The skeptic in me worries this may just be about more effective marketing.

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07-17-2013 02:41 AM
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The doctors and DMEs will do just fine without his help, I can assure you. There is literally nothing he can add to their knowledge that they don't already get in their normal training, unless it is all about marketing and billing techniques or something like that. Their technical knowledge cannot be improved on by a crowd sourced start up. Save your money, give it to a worthy cause (or even a nice cuppa) and avoid this sort of thing - sad to say, scams in the medical industry are not new, and hucksterism is still very rife in our field.
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(07-17-2013 05:20 AM)DocWils Wrote:  The doctors and DMEs will do just fine without his help, I can assure you. There is literally nothing he can add to their knowledge that they don't already get in their normal training, unless it is all about marketing and billing techniques or something like that. Their technical knowledge cannot be improved on by a crowd sourced start up. Save your money, give it to a worthy cause (or even a nice cuppa) and avoid this sort of thing - sad to say, scams in the medical industry are not new, and hucksterism is still very rife in our field.

Good point. Here in the US, doctors have high dollar professional hucksters trying to feed them "information" about how good their products are. I see them all the time coming to the doctor's office, handing out samples, free pens, pads, etc. They are often attractive young ladies. Then there are tons of printed or electronic solicitations being marketed to the doctors.

Even if this guy has the real scoop on how to do CPAP treatment right, he'll probably get ignored.

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(07-18-2013 01:18 AM)archangle Wrote:  I see them all the time coming to the doctor's office, handing out samples, free pens, pads, etc. They are often attractive young ladies.
Me too, we must be going to the same doctor
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RE: crowdsourcing to "maximize the effectives of CPAP in the U.S."
Yeah, they come into my office all the time, too, but alas, most of them aren't attractive ladies. And they aren't allowed to give handouts here anymore. At one time I was drowning in pill samples - I used to give them to my patients instead of sending them to the pharmacy - got me into trouble with the pharmacists and they pushed for legislation to stop me and my colleagues from handing out the pills.

Yankee doctors get all sorts of neat things, even all expenses paid trips and such. Nothing like that here. But I remember during my year of hospital practice in the US all the pretty sales reps coming in and flirting, which was nice because I was young and single at the time, but it never got beyond a flirt. There was one from Pfizer I particularly remember.......
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(07-18-2013 03:53 PM)DocWils Wrote:  At one time I was drowning in pill samples - I used to give them to my patients instead of sending them to the pharmacy - got me into trouble with the pharmacists and they pushed for legislation to stop me and my colleagues from handing out the pills.

Umm, just what were you supposed to do with those pills, if not give them to patients? Poker chips? "I'll see your antibiotic and raise you an anxiety suppressant"?
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RE: crowdsourcing to "maximize the effectives of CPAP in the U.S."
(07-18-2013 03:53 PM)DocWils Wrote:  But I remember during my year of hospital practice in the US all the pretty sales reps coming in and flirting, which was nice because I was young and single at the time, but it never got beyond a flirt. There was one from Pfizer I particularly remember.......

Was the one from Pfizer selling those little blue pills for men? Eat-popcorn

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