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insomniac999 Offline

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Location: canada

Post: #11
RE: do I really have apnea???
Thank you so much everybody for your warm welcome and quick replies.

I will give OSA therapy my best try over the course of the next six weeks. Like it has been said the real question is 'do you feel better?' Someone else said my low O2 numbers by themselves warrant the therapy.

Yes I have been insomniac since my teen years and I'm not young anymore. Insomnia for me is a multi-faceted beast (physical and psychological illness). It has been tackled from all angles possible over the years and it has become debilitating this spring. It'll be interesting to see what effect OSA therapy has on all of this.

I have downloaded Sleepyhead like you suggested.

I do have the sleep study report which shows the numbers I mentioned. In the past I had two other sleep studies done (in hospital) which did not detect OSA. I guess growing old does this to you.

The provider I leased the machine from are asking way more than I can get it on internet. They say they provide support with the purchase.

Thank you again for your support, comments and suggestions
Thanks
07-14-2016 01:15 PM
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PaulaO2 Offline
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Post: #12
RE: do I really have apnea???
Easy to prove. Use Sleepyhead to see the minimum pressure your machine reaches during the course of about 7 nights. So let's say your 95% is 9 and your median is 7. Set your machine to straight CPAP 6 and sleep with it for 2 nights. Check the data. My bet is the events increase and you feel like crap on a stick. It will prove to you that you are being treated, not conned. Or it could prove the opposite but I doubt it.

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07-14-2016 01:21 PM
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insomniac999 Offline

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Machine: Resmed Airsense 10 autoset
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Post: #13
RE: do I really have apnea???
(07-14-2016 01:21 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  Easy to prove. Use Sleepyhead to see the minimum pressure your machine reaches during the course of about 7 nights. So let's say your 95% is 9 and your median is 7. Set your machine to straight CPAP 6 and sleep with it for 2 nights. Check the data. My bet is the events increase and you feel like crap on a stick. It will prove to you that you are being treated, not conned. Or it could prove the opposite but I doubt it.

I did try the machine for 7 nights with a 95% of around 11. Lowered the max pressure to 9 with a resulting AHI 1. Second night at max pressure of 7 with resulting AHI 1.5. Third night at pressure 4 with AHI of 1.7. I haven't had more or less sleep than the first week and I am feeling the same.

It's either I return the machine (on lease, 2 wks remaining) or I try it out for another week at max pressure around 12.

Either way I'll and lose a few pounds (I have gained 10 since Xmas) since I possibly don't have OSA or it's a very mild one.

What do you think? Thinking-about
07-23-2016 09:45 AM
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Rcgop Offline

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CPAP Pressure: 6.0 - 10.0 / EPR 2
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Post: #14
RE: do I really have apnea???
I feel I can relate to your numbers and insomnia. Small changes have improved my sleep quality 1000%. However, I am not there yet. I got 4 hours of "normal" sleep last night for the first time in years and my AHI was 2.1. CAs going down, HAs going up, and OSAs gone completely.

Sleep quality going up, AHI under 5, feeling better during the day, and happy dreams. Who could ask for more.

There does seem to be a trade off between sleep quality and AHI. As long as I sleep good I will not complain about my AHI being around 2. I had a couple of nights at 0 but not sleep the best. I do not think it is my AHI keeping me awake but some other cause. Pressure, pressure changes, hose on face, flow limits, allergies, or something else but I plan to find out. Until I do, the hose in the face stays.

This is a strange journey we are on and I refuse to let it get the best of me.

HuhDont-knowI am an accountant so any advice given here is not medical. If I give any financial advice, you can take it to the bank. However, you will have a hard time cashing it in. Okay
07-23-2016 10:40 AM
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Pumpino Offline

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Post: #15
RE: do I really have apnea???
(07-14-2016 01:15 PM)insomniac999 Wrote:  The provider I leased the machine from are asking way more than I can get it on internet. They say they provide support with the purchase.

I'm also completing a trial with the same machine as you. See http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-CPAP-Do-I-really-need-CPAP.

Like you, my provider charges a fortune to purchase the machine and provide support. Now that I know how to access the clinician's mode and enter the correct pressure range, I'm not dependent on the provider to provide "support". I've been quoted $AU2,500 for the ResMed. If I purchase from a site such as SecondWind, I can get a secondhand unit for close to $AU1,100 (including my preferred Philips DreamWear nasal pillow mask and postage, and I don't require a prescription). Ironically, ResMed manufactures the machines in Australia, but I have to purchase them from the US to get them at a fair price.
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07-23-2016 08:10 PM
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